guys who struggle with mental sides on 19 nors

lol this guys been posting for years about how big he is and then was in hospital almost died now back to doing toxic gear and supposedly competing next year. Pic or vid evidence, typed words are just that typed words. Zero worth to them … He won’t post an updated photo, I know he won’t.
Yea Im pretty big, and yeah I almost died I had sepsis in 2023. I dont have to prove jack shit to you dude haha my pic I have is old yeah but I havent been that lean in a while so keep in mind im like 205 in my pic. Im 250 now.. also quite a bit older idk why I would get smaller? Again i have nothing to prove to you could care less what you think or believe.
 
So im on a deca cycle, getting the usual deca downs feeling not as good as usual just kind of down a little bit so I started looking into this and I guess its caused from dopamine depletion or some shit like that idk im not a scientist but I recently started taking l-tyrosine, its an amino acid that is a precurser to dopamine. I must say I feel better my mood has increased slightly. I just started it about a week ago but it has helped. I would recommend it on a deca or tren cycle. Im going to use it next time im on tren as well maybe it will help.
I see myself going heavy on 19nors until further notice. Reason being, unfortunately, I have to avoid certain DHT's b/c they shred my scalp, despite rarely touching it in yrs past. Winny and Mast seem to be the biggest enemies of my scalp and I still need to experiment to see how much my Test dose contributes to this. I still have a full head of hair and good genetics for hair but within a week of using things like Masteron & Winny I start shedding. Nothing else makes me shed and I'd like to keep my hairline. As a result I've been going heavy on 19nors this cycle. I started out running EQ and Tren Ace to go with my Test base. I added NPP 2 weeks ago and titrated up to 600mgs last week. That feeling of mild depression and unwarranted hopelessness is creeping in. I'll give the l-tyrosine a shot. I am prescribed adderal and that helps my dopamine levels but it's not enough to last an entire day. Maybe the tyrosine in conjuction with the adderal is just what the doctor ordered.

Thanks for posting. I'll check back in to report any progress on the l-tyrosine.

Note: I have been a bit too reckless this year and in sticking with that theme, as soon as I began feeling down I added Dbol to this cycle, hoping to get enough of that Dbol euphoria to help me work through the blues. Admittedly not the smartest move but it's been a long time since I've used Dbol and it'll only be for 4 weeks.

By the end of summer I'm going to start a long cruise and health phase for winter. I'll keep running GH and the occasional peptide along with my cruise dose of Test.
 
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I see myself going heavy on 19nors until further notice. Reason being, unfortunately, I have to avoid certain DHT's b/c they shred my scalp, despite rarely touching it in yrs past. Winny and Mast seem to be the biggest enemies of my scalp and I still need to experiment to see how much my Test dose contributes to this. I still have a full head of hair and good genetics for hair but within a week of using things like Masteron & Winny I start shedding. Nothing else makes me shed and I'd like to keep my hairline. As a result I've been going heavy on 19nors this cycle. I started out running EQ and Tren Ace to go with my Test base. I added NPP 2 weeks ago and titrated up to 600mgs last week. That feeling of mild depression and unwarranted hopelessness is creeping in. I'll give the l-tyrosine a shot. I am prescribed adderal and that helps my dopamine levels but it's not enough to last an entire day. Maybe the tyrosine in conjuction with the adderal is just what the doctor ordered.

Thanks for posting. I'll check back in to report any progress on the l-tyrosine.

Note: I have been a bit too reckless this year and in sticking with that theme, as soon as I began feeling down I added Dbol to this cycle, hoping to get enough of that Dbol euphoria to help me work through the blues. Admittedly not the smartest move but it's been a long time since I've used Dbol and it'll only be for 4 weeks.

By the end of summer I'm going to start a long cruise and health phase for winter. I'll keep running GH and the occasional peptide along with my cruise dose of Test.
yeah it does add to the adderall i have heard so give it a try. Also something that helps keep my hairline is high dose omega 3s i do 4g a day and mhy hairline doesnt shed at all realy. also bitoin and collagen help keep hairline on a heavy cycle.
 
yeah it does add to the adderall i have heard so give it a try. Also something that helps keep my hairline is high dose omega 3s i do 4g a day and mhy hairline doesnt shed at all realy. also bitoin and collagen help keep hairline on a heavy cycle.
I take 3600mgs of the Omega 3's and had no idea they helped with the hairline. That's good to know. I also use 2% ketoconazole shampoo twice a week and minoxidil twice a day as a preventative measure which seems to be working. I was using a derma roller for awhile as well but not sure how well it actually works. Haven't had any issues since I stopped it. I have some Biotin my girl got but doesn't use. I think I'll dig into it soon, as I might add Masteron into this cycle to shake the bummed out feeling I'm getting from the nandrolones.
 
Interesting, tyrosine helping with the downs on deca.
Last time I took deca … oh boy was I an emotionless zombie who finally got the balls to dump an ex after 4 years of fighting.

Wonder how it would help with EQ?
Tren doesn’t give me anxiety or depression. Just slight paranoia which I can get over.
But last EQ run. Wow were the thoughts terrible. Like severe depression and anxiety level. Constant death thoughts. Major Fun time.

Also saw the Lexapro comment. Wonder how that would affect my anxiety/depression.
Always finding new stuff in here.
 
Interesting, tyrosine helping with the downs on deca.
Last time I took deca … oh boy was I an emotionless zombie who finally got the balls to dump an ex after 4 years of fighting.

Wonder how it would help with EQ?
Tren doesn’t give me anxiety or depression. Just slight paranoia which I can get over.
But last EQ run. Wow were the thoughts terrible. Like severe depression and anxiety level. Constant death thoughts. Major Fun time.

Also saw the Lexapro comment. Wonder how that would affect my anxiety/depression.
Always finding new stuff in here.
Lexapro works great for anxiety but it’s also emotionally blunting, imo it’s great while you’re working through some stuff but as a long term solution it may not be ideal, just depends what the alternative is without it if
 
Lexapro works great for anxiety but it’s also emotionally blunting, imo it’s great while you’re working through some stuff but as a long term solution it may not be ideal, just depends what the alternative is without it if
Emotionally Blunting. Yeah I’m already pretty dry. Don’t need more of that lol
 
Yea Im pretty big, and yeah I almost died I had sepsis in 2023. I dont have to prove jack shit to you dude haha my pic I have is old yeah but I havent been that lean in a while so keep in mind im like 205 in my pic. Im 250 now.. also quite a bit older idk why I would get smaller? Again i have nothing to prove to you could care less what you think or believe.
Whatever you say buddy. Keep a photo up from 4 years ago but say you’re going to compete soon. Nothing wrong with 250-260 and lean. Let’s see !!!

But keep that one up if you at 205 lol
 
Just don’t use it… no reason to find a work around for something the body doesn’t want lol. There are plenty of other compounds. Ever since I stopped using NPP I feel much better mentally on cycles, even when I take tren it is much more manageable since I’m not using NPP with it.
I am starting to second this point of view. Decca takes a while to mess with you and you don't notice it at first.

I've been off it for 2 weeks now; I'm on 125 test E and 200mg masteron and I feel better by the day. Granted I'm also on 0.25mg cabergoline per week.

Anecdote... But maybe there is something to it. Atleast be aware of the potential sides.

A big part of growing is training so if it stops me from having that dopamine driven drive it doesn't really matter how anabolic it is.

Not saying I won't use Decca again (it's amazing for my joint issues), but I'll be cautious of chronic use.
 
I am starting to second this point of view. Decca takes a while to mess with you and you don't notice it at first.

I've been off it for 2 weeks now; I'm on 125 test E and 200mg masteron and I feel better by the day. Granted I'm also on 0.25mg cabergoline per week.

Anecdote... But maybe there is something to it. Atleast be aware of the potential sides.

A big part of growing is training so if it stops me from having that dopamine driven drive it doesn't really matter how anabolic it is.

Not saying I won't use Decca again (it's amazing for my joint issues), but I'll be cautious of chronic use.
do you notice the caber helped?
 
I take 3600mgs of the Omega 3's and had no idea they helped with the hairline. That's good to know. I also use 2% ketoconazole shampoo twice a week and minoxidil twice a day as a preventative measure which seems to be working. I was using a derma roller for awhile as well but not sure how well it actually works. Haven't had any issues since I stopped it. I have some Biotin my girl got but doesn't use. I think I'll dig into it soon, as I might add Masteron into this cycle to shake the bummed out feeling I'm getting from the nandrolones.
omega 3s, bitoin, collegen is about the same as 1mg fina a day imo. I notice much thicker hair on this stack.
 
So im on a deca cycle, getting the usual deca downs feeling not as good as usual just kind of down a little bit so I started looking into this and I guess its caused from dopamine depletion or some shit like that idk im not a scientist but I recently started taking l-tyrosine, its an amino acid that is a precurser to dopamine. I must say I feel better my mood has increased slightly. I just started it about a week ago but it has helped. I would recommend it on a deca or tren cycle. Im going to use it next time im on tren as well maybe it will help.
There's a supplement called 5-HTP that people take before they take this party drug called Molly, I think that it might be MDMA. There's a early 20's rave stud at gym I rarely go to that was telling another guy he took the 5-HTP for a cpl weeks before going to some desert shit show thing in preparation for the drug fueled orgy fest he was going to for a week.

He said that the DECA blues went away. I know nothing of any of that stuff and avoid DECA because I like the use of my lady dick. Just another data point for you.
 
do you notice the caber helped?
I originally added cabergoline at 0.25mg per week because I was having more and more frequently issues with not being able to finish during sex.

It immediately fixed that issue and I noticed the boost in mood. The main thing I noticed was the disappearance of negative thoughts and suspicions around infidelity (unbased).

Its silly things like enjoying music, having a positive outlook for the future, being motivated to talk to people and do stuff and being optimistic for the future.

For context I ran into problems 6 weeks into running 350mg nandralone with 420mg mast and 150mg test E. I'd been running nandralone at at least 100mg since November for my joint issues. I had zero mental issues with nandralone before that.
 
great thread

I have had bad experiences with Deca/NPP/Tren too

In my opinion - the best approach if youre desperate for a 19nor - 10mg MENT acetate 1 hour pwo - packs a solid punch. If you still need more ... add 10-20mg of tren ace

duloxetine is an underrated med for mental health. sexual sides manageable; no weight gain;sweating

good luck everyone
 
My personal protocol on deca/tren when I feel my dopamine is being nulled
Adderall 10mg twice a day or
Wellbutrin 300mg daily
Or caber 0.25 every 5 days
(Whatever I have in stock I’ll use)

I take 3g l-tyrosine daily so it has no additional affect on my brain also 300mg p5p

If serotonin is waked and I know how it feels
Then I’ll take vortioxetine 5mg/10mg/20mg for at least 6 months then I’ll tapper down and quit
 
Agree with both. Not being able to finish during sex with my wife is a deal breaker for taking SSRIs. I’m on Wellbutrin now, which is a NDRi ( increases norepinephrine and dopamine ) it doesn’t have the mental blunting or sexual sides that SSRIs have on most people. It actually can increase libido and improve motivation and energy. It’s working much better for me, but IMO, it does not help with anxiety and sometimes actually make it worse. I’m thinking about adding a very low dose of an SSRI to take the edge off, but I am afraid that I won’t be able to climax, even with the low dose.
Have you tried all the different types of SSRI?
 
Lexapro works great for anxiety but it’s also emotionally blunting, imo it’s great while you’re working through some stuff but as a long term solution it may not be ideal, just depends what the alternative is without it if
SSRI's are emotionally blunting for like 30% of people, based on user reports
 
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