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When items like the Mast Prop, Test C and Test E were out of stock recently, but then are back in stock after several days, but there's no new batch testing from Janoshik, does this indicate that it's not actually a new batch? Was it stock that was held back for some reason?
 
Well...after poking around many threads on GH (and trying to order from SSA with no success) it seems I will give Opti a shot. Someone asked a bit ago if the Gold Tops are back in stock, but I have not seen an answer.
 
Well...after poking around many threads on GH (and trying to order from SSA with no success) it seems I will give Opti a shot. Someone asked a bit ago if the Gold Tops are back in stock, but I have not seen an answer.
They're in stock as of right now. You can always just go directly to his site and check in stock status.
 
Thank you. Yes the site says available. I have also heard it is better to email him.
It was out of stock for a few days, but came back in stock not too long ago, so hopefully he does have them. I've never personally had an issue with anything that said it was available on the website not actual be in stock, but you're right, an email will get you the most up to date information directly from him. I've got a bunch of gold tops coming in myself, and it'll actually be my very first venture into GH, so I'm very much looking forward to them.
 
It was out of stock for a few days, but came back in stock not too long ago, so hopefully he does have them. I've never personally had an issue with anything that said it was available on the website not actual be in stock, but you're right, an email will get you the most up to date information directly from him. I've got a bunch of gold tops coming in myself, and it'll actually be my very first venture into GH, so I'm very much looking forward to them.

The current Gold Tops are listed at 40iu and I believe the last ones were 36.

@Opti can you confirm this is a new batch or new testing, and they're in stock currently? Getting ready to restock before it sells out again.
 
OK...so the new Gold tops (Janoshick results are posted) are coming back at 99.7% purity with barely any dimmers. I am assuming they are not going to have the clarity problems we are seeing in other GH like some of the latest batches from SSA, yes?
 
I have been debating either using the lobster or these guys and after I did some math,the price difference between the two is negligible if you buy the gold tops,crazy but I feel like buying domestic is the way to go if your from the usa,your not really saving much by ordering internationally, less vials with more in them ,Or more vials with less in them .
 
OK...so the new Gold tops (Janoshick results are posted) are coming back at 99.7% purity with barely any dimmers. I am assuming they are not going to have the clarity problems we are seeing in other GH like some of the latest batches from SSA, yes?
Where are the gold top results posted? The one on the opti site is not 99%.
 
Yeah looking as well? Don't think I've ever seen a 99+ hgh test
Yeah it's not unless it's hidden on the site somewhere, It's 97%
Yeah looking as well? Don't think I've ever seen a 99+ hgh test
It's not it's 97.9,% , It's still good stuff though, I don't think anybody has 99% lol, maybe actual Pfizer pharma grade, 400$ for 100iu's. Somehow I think that extra 2% purity is not worth the extra 300 bucks... Maybe in your head but probably not on lab work. I still see people argue that s*** to death, somehow thinking that extra fortune they're spending is worth the 2% better in purity, I feel like telling them it's not the f****** '90s dude. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but from everything I've researched,You can only get so high of an IGF-1 rating, And once you pass 10 Iu's It hits a hard plateau in most people, You're going to do three times as much to hardly anything more. It's kind of silly, You're just destroying your body to get a couple hundred extra IGF rating, I forget where I saw that study that they did not too long ago, but guys weren't getting hardly anymore from 20 Iu's as they were from 10, And you're not getting whole hell of a lot more from 10 then you are six or eight. I'm sure people do it for some reason but on paper it makes no sense, It's not a linear thing, It stops increasing dramatically after you hit somewhere around 10 Iu's, at least that's what I read in most of the studies I've seen... I could be wrong I'm definitely not an expert on the subject
 
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Yeah it's not unless it's hidden on the site somewhere, It's 97%

It's not it's 97.9,% , It's still good stuff though, I don't think anybody has 99% lol, maybe actual Pfizer pharma grade, 400$ for 100iu's. Somehow I think that extra 2% purity is not worth the extra 300 bucks... Maybe in your head but probably not on lab work. I still see people argue that s*** to death, somehow thinking that extra fortune they're spending is worth the 2% better in purity, I feel like telling them it's not the f****** '90s dude. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but from everything I've researched,You can only get so high of an IGF-1 rating, And once you pass 10 Iu's It hits a hard plateau in most people, You're going to do three times as much to hardly anything more. It's kind of silly, You're just destroying your body to get a couple hundred extra IGF rating, I forget where I saw that study that they did not too long ago, but guys weren't getting hardly anymore from 20 Iu's as they were from 10, And you're not getting whole hell of a lot more from 10 then you are six or eight. I'm sure people do it for some reason but on paper it makes no sense, It's not a linear thing, It stops increasing dramatically after you hit somewhere around 10 Iu's, at least that's what I read in most of the studies I've seen... I could be wrong I'm definitely not an expert on the subject
Actually to be more specific what I read in the last study they did with like 25 participants was, once you hit 20 Iu's there was almost no increase in IGF rating beyond that no matter how much they gave them , And it was still IGF rating of like 750, And when they gave people 10 Iu's it was still around 500 somewhere, which they were still able to achieve almost with six to eight Iu's.. so it would seem according to that, that you get your biggest increase with something under 10, And beyond that You're just throwing Iu's out the window unless you're some sort of hyper responder. I imagine that's why they give HIV patients 18, because You're pretty much hit the max of what you can possibly get out of it at that point, It gets very inefficient once you get past the 10 mark, And that was with quote on quote"pharma grade" The best you can get if that even is such a thing
 
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Oops, my bad, yes it was 97.9, a little numerical dyslexia on my part.

I normally order through a rep (SSA, IL, etc) but Opti wants orders to go trough the website. Has this been a smooth process for others?

I am always paranoid about a bitcoin mistake.

I also see billing and shipping lumped together. I send to a receiver so my billing and shipping are separate. However I believe that your billing address is not material if you are using bitcoin.
 
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Yeah it's not unless it's hidden on the site somewhere, It's 97%

It's not it's 97.9,% , It's still good stuff though, I don't think anybody has 99% lol, maybe actual Pfizer pharma grade, 400$ for 100iu's. Somehow I think that extra 2% purity is not worth the extra 300 bucks... Maybe in your head but probably not on lab work. I still see people argue that s*** to death, somehow thinking that extra fortune they're spending is worth the 2% better in purity, I feel like telling them it's not the f****** '90s dude. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but from everything I've researched,You can only get so high of an IGF-1 rating, And once you pass 10 Iu's It hits a hard plateau in most people, You're going to do three times as much to hardly anything more. It's kind of silly, You're just destroying your body to get a couple hundred extra IGF rating, I forget where I saw that study that they did not too long ago, but guys weren't getting hardly anymore from 20 Iu's as they were from 10, And you're not getting whole hell of a lot more from 10 then you are six or eight. I'm sure people do it for some reason but on paper it makes no sense, It's not a linear thing, It stops increasing dramatically after you hit somewhere around 10 Iu's, at least that's what I read in most of the studies I've seen... I could be wrong I'm definitely not an expert on the subject


I agree. Even for contest prep I never ran more than 6 iu's.

Back to the billing/shipping issue, I am concerned that if I give to separate addresses, there may be confusion.
 
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I forget where I saw that study that they did not too long ago, but guys weren't getting hardly anymore from 20 Iu's as they were from 10, And you're not getting whole hell of a lot more from 10 then you are six or eight. . . . at least that's what I read in most of the studies I've seen...

Actually to be more specific what I read in the last study they did with like 25 participants was, once you hit 20 Iu's there was almost no increase in IGF rating beyond that no matter how much they gave them , And it was still IGF rating of like 750, And when they gave people 10 Iu's it was still around 500 somewhere, which they were still able to achieve almost with six to eight Iu's.. so it would seem according to that, that you get your biggest increase with something under 10, And beyond that You're just throwing Iu's out the window unless you're some sort of hyper responder.

If you can find this again, I would like to see it. I do not recall seeing any studies on IGF-1 response based on iu of hgh.
 
If you can find this again, I would like to see it. I do not recall seeing any studies on IGF-1 response based on iu of hgh.
I've seen a video where someone mentioned this too. Not a linear correlation, but that there is an upper limit. So adding more gh doesn't keep raising igf-1.
 
If you can find this again, I would like to see it. I do not recall seeing any studies on IGF-1 response based on iu of hgh.

Posts 312 and 315 in your thread.

 
If you can find this again, I would like to see it. I do not recall seeing any studies on IGF-1 response based on iu of hgh.

The more Meso IGF1 values that get added, the more fucked up it looks

WILD variance (as expected because it's not controlled for anything, just what people reported mainly in the Natty IGF1 thread) (thus the importance of controlled trials)

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across the bottom is GH dose
 
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