What place has the current cheapest price for primo?

Kilo=1000
1000g=1000000mg
2000mg/per10ml vial
1000000 ÷ 2000
500
500 - 10ml vials @ 200mg/ml =
2000 x 500 =1000000mg
1000000mg ÷1000=
1kg
Bro... do you even brew?

With 1 kg of Primobolan at 95% purity and only 2% production loss:
You can produce:465 vials of 10 ml
at a concentration of 200 mg/ml.
 
Whats the current consensus on JY? I know a little while ago a lot of their shit was testing bunk
They had Primo and Winny that was underdosed but everything else tested fine. The best thing to do is buy something and ask members if they want to go in on testing. Some of JY’s products are routinely being tested anyway.
 
They had Primo and Winny that was underdosed but everything else tested fine. The best thing to do is buy something and ask members if they want to go in on testing. Some of JY’s products are routinely being tested anyway.
I believe his deca 500 and npp 150 both came back 15-20% underdosed as well
 
Cheapest I can find primo 200 is $450 for a kit. Is there any cheaper options?
Price list or IN STOCK? It seems like nobody has any oils in stock. SSA may have had a restock, but I haven't gotten a confirmation about that yet.

Mast E 200 going for $170 for a kit at JY while Primo is double that price. Again, just that vendor, but $170 for Mast E 200 is pretty good, especially in this climate we are in.
People in JY thread say that they now want 2000$ MOQ and don't have oils in stock.
SRY didn't even post an oil price list in their last update.


Would appreciate some help where to order a few kits for each roid.
 
Price list or IN STOCK? It seems like nobody has any oils in stock. SSA may have had a restock, but I haven't gotten a confirmation about that yet.


People in JY thread say that they now want 2000$ MOQ and don't have oils in stock.
SRY didn't even post an oil price list in their last update.


Would appreciate some help where to order a few kits for each roid.
Are you in the UK? I don’t think JY’s MOQ applies to the US.

Also, look for WWB’s thread. They have gear. Plus plenty of US Domestic sources still have product.
 
Are you in the UK? I don’t think JY’s MOQ applies to the US.

Also, look for WWB’s thread. They have gear. Plus plenty of US Domestic sources still have product.
I am in EU. Thanks for the pointer, will need to read up WWB again!
They were lower on my list of possible vendors I had identified as valid for restocking oils, but I may have been to quick on that assesment.
 
Well go find the damn GH paper xD

jk I'm looking rn and having no luck based on the keywords in your post
Sorry, been busy/tasked finding seemingly unobtainable roids for my computer illiterate friends, LOL.

Another Update: SSA also seems to have Bolde back in stock.

So far I can basically only find all flavours of test, but I am sure this old news for all of you. :-/
 
Sorry, been busy/tasked finding seemingly unobtainable roids for my computer illiterate friends, LOL.

Another Update: SSA also seems to have Bolde back in stock.

So far I can basically only find all flavours of test, but I am sure this old news for all of you. :-/

You got some kind of weird parameters like it needs to be domestic or a certain price limit or a preferred vendor?

Cuz many flavors are in stock.
 
I can afford the $450. I just spent $1300 on HGH and slin lol. I’ve just read primo is much more anabolic than mast in terms of tissue gain
I really don't think that is true at all.

Mast is typically used during contest preparation and cutting phase (often with tren and reduced testosterone), in a calorie deficit with lower GH and less intense training. Typical YouTube influencer buzzwords... dry, hard, not very anabolic

Primo is commonly used in offseason with calorie surplus, higher testosterone (not to mention other anabolics ie nandrolone), more GH, and more aggressive training. Typical YouTube influencer buzzwords... fullness, slow steady anabolism

So used in these circumstances, no surprise Primo will be better in terms of tissue gains.

In reality, both are inferior anabolic agents compared to testosterone, albeit with reduced androgenicity as neither convert to DHT (they are already 5a-reduced, but neither act like DHT nor derived directly from DHT). And neither can aromatize to estradiol. Which means, intrinsically both are hair/prostate safe at anything but extreme dosages; however, both bind with very high affinity to SHBG which displaces bound testosterone - resulting in increased free testosterone which drives conversion to DHT in tissues with high 5a-reductase expression, including scalp/prostate. That is genesis of the notorious hair and prostate problems with these drugs. Hair and prostate issues with Mast/Primo can be alleviated by reducing testosterone, using low-dose SARMS either steroidal (ie 19-nors) or non-steroidal (ie RAD140) with very high affinity AR binding to block DHT at the prostate, and using topicals i.e. finasteride/RU-58841 to reduce DHT formation and block what does form at the hair follicles.

Like test and every single derivative, both Primo and Mast will cause dyslipidemia (elevated LDL and diminished HDL) and stimulate erythropoietin production (raising Hgb/Hct, Primo much more so than Mast). They also both affect estrogen behavior in complex ways that are not really well understood, in part because of individual genetic variability. Primo and/or metabolites can act as a suicide AI in some people, not all; fairly common for those adding Primo to their TRT/AAS regimen to crash estradiol. That never happens with Masteron, although it and/or metabolites can have a SERM-like effect in certain tissues, particularly the breast, by altering transcriptional activity of the ERα and ERβ receptors. Masteron was in fact developed and marketed as a drug for metastatic breast cancer - and still remains on the US formulary to this day, although no pharma company produces it. It was/is similarly effective at the therapeutic dose (300mg/wk) as Tamoxifen, Evista, Aromasin, Arimidex, etc. but those do not have the masculinizing effects so basically replaced it. Essentially all AAS have this property, but masteron had a superior antineoplastic/masculinizing profile to others, without the toxicity of 17a-alkylated AAS tested for this purpose i.e. methyltrienolone.

Anyway sorry for the long reply but just wanted to offer an explanation as to why these drugs can be largely interchangeable. Alas, both are fairly hard to find right now. A third potential option is DHB, it is easy to find but has its own set of issues.

Btw my current regimen is low dose test/primo/mast (all enanthate, 105/98/98mg per week), very low dose tren+MENT (both acetate, 35mg/17.5mg per week). Using the primo + mast because I have them, and they do seem to work well together. Primo does not significantly lower my estradiol.
 
I really don't think that is true at all.

Mast is typically used during contest preparation and cutting phase (often with tren and reduced testosterone), in a calorie deficit with lower GH and less intense training. Typical YouTube influencer buzzwords... dry, hard, not very anabolic

Primo is commonly used in offseason with calorie surplus, higher testosterone (not to mention other anabolics ie nandrolone), more GH, and more aggressive training. Typical YouTube influencer buzzwords... fullness, slow steady anabolism

So used in these circumstances, no surprise Primo will be better in terms of tissue gains.

In reality, both are inferior anabolic agents compared to testosterone, albeit with reduced androgenicity as neither convert to DHT (they are already 5a-reduced, but neither act like DHT nor derived directly from DHT). And neither can aromatize to estradiol. Which means, intrinsically both are hair/prostate safe at anything but extreme dosages; however, both bind with very high affinity to SHBG which displaces bound testosterone - resulting in increased free testosterone which drives conversion to DHT in tissues with high 5a-reductase expression, including scalp/prostate. That is genesis of the notorious hair and prostate problems with these drugs. Hair and prostate issues with Mast/Primo can be alleviated by reducing testosterone, using low-dose SARMS either steroidal (ie 19-nors) or non-steroidal (ie RAD140) with very high affinity AR binding to block DHT at the prostate, and using topicals i.e. finasteride/RU-58841 to reduce DHT formation and block what does form at the hair follicles.

Like test and every single derivative, both Primo and Mast will cause dyslipidemia (elevated LDL and diminished HDL) and stimulate erythropoietin production (raising Hgb/Hct, Primo much more so than Mast). They also both affect estrogen behavior in complex ways that are not really well understood, in part because of individual genetic variability. Primo and/or metabolites can act as a suicide AI in some people, not all; fairly common for those adding Primo to their TRT/AAS regimen to crash estradiol. That never happens with Masteron, although it and/or metabolites can have a SERM-like effect in certain tissues, particularly the breast, by altering transcriptional activity of the ERα and ERβ receptors. Masteron was in fact developed and marketed as a drug for metastatic breast cancer - and still remains on the US formulary to this day, although no pharma company produces it. It was/is similarly effective at the therapeutic dose (300mg/wk) as Tamoxifen, Evista, Aromasin, Arimidex, etc. but those do not have the masculinizing effects so basically replaced it. Essentially all AAS have this property, but masteron had a superior antineoplastic/masculinizing profile to others, without the toxicity of 17a-alkylated AAS tested for this purpose i.e. methyltrienolone.

Anyway sorry for the long reply but just wanted to offer an explanation as to why these drugs can be largely interchangeable. Alas, both are fairly hard to find right now. A third potential option is DHB, it is easy to find but has its own set of issues.

Btw my current regimen is low dose test/primo/mast (all enanthate, 105/98/98mg per week), very low dose tren+MENT (both acetate, 35mg/17.5mg per week). Using the primo + mast because I have them, and they do seem to work well together. Primo does not significantly lower my estradiol.
This is incredibly helpful
 
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