Who has $450/kit? Been looking for a minute and finding out of stock mostly.I can afford the $450. I just spent $1300 on HGH and slin lol. I’ve just read primo is much more anabolic than mast in terms of tissue gain
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Who has $450/kit? Been looking for a minute and finding out of stock mostly.I can afford the $450. I just spent $1300 on HGH and slin lol. I’ve just read primo is much more anabolic than mast in terms of tissue gain
they don't have any mast E in stock, so its a pretend price?Mast E 200 going for $170 for a kit at JY while Primo is double that price. Again, just that vendor, but $170 for Mast E 200 is pretty good, especially in this climate we are in.
Who has $450/kit? Been looking for a minute and finding out of stock mostly.
Whats the current consensus on JY? I know a little while ago a lot of their shit was testing bunkWho has $450/kit? Been looking for a minute and finding out of stock mostly
Bro... do you even brew?Kilo=1000
1000g=1000000mg
2000mg/per10ml vial
1000000 ÷ 2000
500
500 - 10ml vials @ 200mg/ml =
2000 x 500 =1000000mg
1000000mg ÷1000=
1kg
They had Primo and Winny that was underdosed but everything else tested fine. The best thing to do is buy something and ask members if they want to go in on testing. Some of JY’s products are routinely being tested anyway.Whats the current consensus on JY? I know a little while ago a lot of their shit was testing bunk
I believe his deca 500 and npp 150 both came back 15-20% underdosed as wellThey had Primo and Winny that was underdosed but everything else tested fine. The best thing to do is buy something and ask members if they want to go in on testing. Some of JY’s products are routinely being tested anyway.
Yea. I think there are some very recent testing results that came back underdosed. I would not trust the dosages on any of his products.I believe his deca 500 and npp 150 both came back 15-20% underdosed as well
Price list or IN STOCK? It seems like nobody has any oils in stock. SSA may have had a restock, but I haven't gotten a confirmation about that yet.Cheapest I can find primo 200 is $450 for a kit. Is there any cheaper options?
People in JY thread say that they now want 2000$ MOQ and don't have oils in stock.Mast E 200 going for $170 for a kit at JY while Primo is double that price. Again, just that vendor, but $170 for Mast E 200 is pretty good, especially in this climate we are in.
Are you in the UK? I don’t think JY’s MOQ applies to the US.Price list or IN STOCK? It seems like nobody has any oils in stock. SSA may have had a restock, but I haven't gotten a confirmation about that yet.
People in JY thread say that they now want 2000$ MOQ and don't have oils in stock.
SRY didn't even post an oil price list in their last update.
Would appreciate some help where to order a few kits for each roid.
I am in EU. Thanks for the pointer, will need to read up WWB again!Are you in the UK? I don’t think JY’s MOQ applies to the US.
Also, look for WWB’s thread. They have gear. Plus plenty of US Domestic sources still have product.
Update for anyone interested: GA currently only stocks Boldenon.Also just wrote an email to GA, which I suspect is the source for the OP's 450$ price?
Update for anyone interested: GA currently only stocks Boldenon.
Sorry, been busy/tasked finding seemingly unobtainable roids for my computer illiterate friends, LOL.Well go find the damn GH paper xD
jk I'm looking rn and having no luck based on the keywords in your post
Sorry, been busy/tasked finding seemingly unobtainable roids for my computer illiterate friends, LOL.
Another Update: SSA also seems to have Bolde back in stock.
So far I can basically only find all flavours of test, but I am sure this old news for all of you. :-/
I really don't think that is true at all.I can afford the $450. I just spent $1300 on HGH and slin lol. I’ve just read primo is much more anabolic than mast in terms of tissue gain
This is incredibly helpfulI really don't think that is true at all.
Mast is typically used during contest preparation and cutting phase (often with tren and reduced testosterone), in a calorie deficit with lower GH and less intense training. Typical YouTube influencer buzzwords... dry, hard, not very anabolic
Primo is commonly used in offseason with calorie surplus, higher testosterone (not to mention other anabolics ie nandrolone), more GH, and more aggressive training. Typical YouTube influencer buzzwords... fullness, slow steady anabolism
So used in these circumstances, no surprise Primo will be better in terms of tissue gains.
In reality, both are inferior anabolic agents compared to testosterone, albeit with reduced androgenicity as neither convert to DHT (they are already 5a-reduced, but neither act like DHT nor derived directly from DHT). And neither can aromatize to estradiol. Which means, intrinsically both are hair/prostate safe at anything but extreme dosages; however, both bind with very high affinity to SHBG which displaces bound testosterone - resulting in increased free testosterone which drives conversion to DHT in tissues with high 5a-reductase expression, including scalp/prostate. That is genesis of the notorious hair and prostate problems with these drugs. Hair and prostate issues with Mast/Primo can be alleviated by reducing testosterone, using low-dose SARMS either steroidal (ie 19-nors) or non-steroidal (ie RAD140) with very high affinity AR binding to block DHT at the prostate, and using topicals i.e. finasteride/RU-58841 to reduce DHT formation and block what does form at the hair follicles.
Like test and every single derivative, both Primo and Mast will cause dyslipidemia (elevated LDL and diminished HDL) and stimulate erythropoietin production (raising Hgb/Hct, Primo much more so than Mast). They also both affect estrogen behavior in complex ways that are not really well understood, in part because of individual genetic variability. Primo and/or metabolites can act as a suicide AI in some people, not all; fairly common for those adding Primo to their TRT/AAS regimen to crash estradiol. That never happens with Masteron, although it and/or metabolites can have a SERM-like effect in certain tissues, particularly the breast, by altering transcriptional activity of the ERα and ERβ receptors. Masteron was in fact developed and marketed as a drug for metastatic breast cancer - and still remains on the US formulary to this day, although no pharma company produces it. It was/is similarly effective at the therapeutic dose (300mg/wk) as Tamoxifen, Evista, Aromasin, Arimidex, etc. but those do not have the masculinizing effects so basically replaced it. Essentially all AAS have this property, but masteron had a superior antineoplastic/masculinizing profile to others, without the toxicity of 17a-alkylated AAS tested for this purpose i.e. methyltrienolone.
Anyway sorry for the long reply but just wanted to offer an explanation as to why these drugs can be largely interchangeable. Alas, both are fairly hard to find right now. A third potential option is DHB, it is easy to find but has its own set of issues.
Btw my current regimen is low dose test/primo/mast (all enanthate, 105/98/98mg per week), very low dose tren+MENT (both acetate, 35mg/17.5mg per week). Using the primo + mast because I have them, and they do seem to work well together. Primo does not significantly lower my estradiol.
agreedThis is incredibly helpful
Thank youThis is incredibly helpful
