guys who struggle with mental sides on 19 nors

[xrayphoton13]

Interesting, tyrosine helping with the downs on deca.

It doesn't. I take 3g pre workout. Never did shit to combat nandrolone mental sides. Neither did dbol. Neither did Masteron. Neither did testosterone. Nandrolone just gonna do what it do. You either learn to handle it or decide high dose nandrolone is not for you

 

[Tbaz192]

It doesn't. I take 3g pre workout. Never did shit to combat nandrolone mental sides. Neither did dbol. Neither did Masteron. Neither did testosterone. Nandrolone just gonna do what it do. You either learn to handle it or decide high dose nandrolone is not for you

Yeah realized my pre does as well. Tyrosine seems to worsen my anxiety / over thinking . Good ol adhd smh

 

[glpfun]

I like steroids that make me not want to drive into oncoming traffic

 

[xrayphoton13]

Yeah realized my pre does as well. Tyrosine seems to worsen my anxiety / over thinking . Good ol adhd smh

Yeah it can be swapped in place of ephedrine so I can believe that for sure

 

[boophomet]

Tyrosine and higher dose modafinil give me a restless feeling that can turn into anxiety, but strangely Adderall doesn't give me any of that. I only take a 15mg IR tablet and haven't tried going up since I feel great at this level, I'm sure if I took a full 30mg I'd start to get restless as well. Mental clarity is a lot sharper though compared to either tyrosine or modafinil

 

[Jaxino]

So im on a deca cycle, getting the usual deca downs feeling not as good as usual just kind of down a little bit so I started looking into this and I guess its caused from dopamine depletion or some shit like that idk im not a scientist but I recently started taking l-tyrosine, its an amino acid that is a precurser to dopamine. I must say I feel better my mood has increased slightly. I just started it about a week ago but it has helped. I would recommend it on a deca or tren cycle. Im going to use it next time im on tren as well maybe it will help.

Since I started incorporating Fluvoxamine at a daily dose of 50 mg, I’ve not experienced any of the mental side effects typically associated with anabolic steroids.

That said, I’ve never been particularly fond of nandrolones. The only 19-nor compound I use is Trenbolone, and I reserve it exclusively for cutting phases. During those periods, I also reduce my testosterone dosage.

In my experience, high testosterone alongside Tren is notoriously difficult to balance—whereas dialing the test back slightly creates a much more manageable and synergistic effect.

 

[AJF]

Have you tried all the different types of SSRI?

Just Lexapro and Zoloft

 

[sneak007]

Just Lexapro and Zoloft

Ah. There may be one that doesn't give you ED, still.

 

[Kralteramon]

Little bit of methylene blue does the trick for me. Subtle but noticable. Do not combine with any of the above suggestions .

 

[AJF]

Little bit of methylene blue does the trick for me. Subtle but noticable. Do not combine with any of the above suggestions .

What dose of meth blue do you take and how often?

 

[Jesintn]

On deca 300 mgs a week. Started a week ago. Was sub q ing eq at 60 mgs a day but anxiety seemed to high. Threw the bottle out as well. It gave me severe infections iming it. If allowed to mention brand , would share. The one using now is hurting from an I’m in glutes few days ago. Dislike these sore ims. Esp when some gear is smooth and barely hurts,or not really at all, and some is sore. Then some causes severe infections , which is the worst.

Thought sub q would be okay. Have had tooth abcess , on antibiotic and trying to eliminate any bacteria that could delay abcess healing.Dbol and s at 12 mgs daily.l pre resistance exercise . Dhea in morning’s 12.5 or 25 mgs.

Started p5p when started deca. Added in l tyrosine . Seems to have helped. Have mucuna Priuens a, l dopa and egcg on hand . Also have bromicriptine, which supposed to be strong. Supposed to be good for fat loss and gh.

I am meticulous about raising dopamine and lowering prolactin in deca bc of previous experiences. I’ve done 210 mgs deca for three months , solo, and experienced depression. No androgenic drive feeling . Took months to feel like dopamine was restored. As far as helping with a decent masculine feeling I do dbol with it, dhea for estrogen and a lil dht boost, not much, better than taking another androgen for myself.

Masteron, or primo , are good hormones as well to throw with deca for some androgenic ratio but I limit these due to hair care, and prostate prevention.

 

[Ricky93]

Nandrolone makes me depressed. Lack of motivation, anhedonia, etc. Even 150mg after 2 weeks I can't deal with it. I stop taking the NPP and feel going from a cloudy day to a sunny one in 3 days.
Trestolone is fine. Increased libido and appetite.
Never did Tren.

 

[Jesintn]

Nandrolone makes me depressed. Lack of motivation, anhedonia, etc. Even 150mg after 2 weeks I can't deal with it. I stop taking the NPP and feel going from a cloudy day to a sunny one in 3 days.
Trestolone is fine. Increased libido and appetite.
Never did Tren.

Mucuna pruriens l-dopa 40% or higher eliminates depression from nandrolone. It works by lowering prolactin and raising dopamine, exactly what deca does the opposite of.

I had blood labs when prolactin was 40. Took mucuna pruneins , a 99 percent l dopa, in one month prolactin came back at 5 .


P5p can help . Best to preload this two weeks. I use a b6 p5p combo , nutracost brand. Some people put in caber or bromociptine.

 

[Kralteramon]

Mucuna pruriens l-dopa 40% or higher eliminates depression from nandrolone. It works by lowering prolactin and raising dopamine, exactly what deca does the opposite of.

I had blood labs when prolactin was 40. Took mucuna pruneins , a 99 percent l dopa, in one month prolactin came back at 5 .


P5p can help . Best to preload this two weeks. I use a b6 p5p combo , nutracost brand. Some people put in caber or bromociptine.

Mucuna works but after you stop using it your problems come back with a vengeance.

 

[Muscles’]

I ignore the mental sides on 19 nors. They eventually go away or become manageable in my experience.

Mine never have been that bad except for once where I was stuck with the same reoccurring theme of thoughts for a week straight. Kept ignoring it and switched from EOD injections to 2x a week to finish that cycle (NPP).

 

[Kralteramon]

I ignore the mental sides on 19 nors. They eventually go away or become manageable in my experience.

Mine never have been that bad except for once where I was stuck with the same reoccurring theme of thoughts for a week straight. Kept ignoring it and switched from EOD injections to 2x a week to finish that cycle (NPP).

I agree with this. Sides happen when I'm ramping dosages. One good thing it does for me it inhibits my ability to hyperfocus. I usually get lost in things and then get fixated bevond healthy proportions. With Nandrolone I'm usually done with anything after 30 minutes or so.

 

[Jesintn]

True, when something first hits the system, the system isn’t used to it , and does adapt better. That said I’ll never use nandrolone again without using something that lowers prolactin and increases dopamine. From experience low dopamine feels the worst. I used 210 mgs deca solo for three months 2022. Never again

 

[Muscles’]

Most of the mental sides are exaggerated and made up in one’s mind.

Same goes for Finasteride and Anastrazole.

Someone will hear that finasteride can cause sexual side effects or depression. Next thing you know someone takes finasteride once and claims their dick apparently no longer works at all and they went to kill themselves.

Same with anastrazole. They will have had no problem with their Anastrazole use up to that point, after reading that Aromasin is apparently “healthier or better”they will convince themselves that their current physical and mental well being is deteriorating rapidly because of Anastrazole all of a sudden.

Lots of weak minded people in my opinion.

If a study came out tomorrow that said a 19 nor cycle caused a heightened well being / induced euphoria. Do you know how many Debbie downers on Deca would all of a sudden feel amazing ?

 

[Kralteramon]

Back in the 90's my dad ran a Deca + Test cycle, before the internet was widespread, and he always spoke about how amazing it felt. He also came off after with apparently no issues rebooting his own production.

 

[Duke309]

Most of the mental sides are exaggerated and made up in one’s mind.

Same goes for Finasteride and Anastrazole.

Someone will hear that finasteride can cause sexual side effects or depression. Next thing you know someone takes finasteride once and claims their dick apparently no longer works at all and they went to kill themselves.

Same with anastrazole. They will have had no problem with their Anastrazole use up to that point, after reading that Aromasin is apparently “healthier or better”they will convince themselves that their current physical and mental well being is deteriorating rapidly because of Anastrazole all of a sudden.

Lots of weak minded people in my opinion.

If a study came out tomorrow that said a 19 nor cycle caused a heightened well being / induced euphoria. Do you know how many Debbie downers on Deca would all of a sudden feel amazing ?

It must have been in my head when I tried low dose finasteride and starting getting puffy nipples and lumps forming.

I agree that a lot of the issues people have with these drugs are completely psychosomatic, but you can't completely ignore other users experiences.