Thanks for the heads up!Just go with PCT Proviron. Zydus is the manufacturer of Provironum which is owned by Bayer. It’s cheap and properly dosed.
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Thanks for the heads up!Just go with PCT Proviron. Zydus is the manufacturer of Provironum which is owned by Bayer. It’s cheap and properly dosed.
lol pray they end my miseryDont talk shit about SRY Labs bro. SRY Labs is on some straight up gang shit.
That said, I am watching this P-chloro situation carefully.
That said, I am watching this P-chloro situation carefully. Hopefully they make things right as they have in the past.
I never seen anything like or with disinfectant with them (or anyone for that matter). I remember from the old nuked discord that sry did have a issue a while back, probably close to a year ago now, where there were people were getting tirz. It was supposed to be 40mg and it was 20mg or supposed to be 20mg and it was 40mg, something like that. Sry/Alan said it was possible that the wrong production batch was given to them at the factory/loading dock..... and sry refunded and or shipped replacement products with bonus amounts. I thought Alan handled it pretty good and was fair. Once one person says something bad (true or not) it fucking spreads like wildfire and people want answers or money back right fucking now or I will report you to the BBB. Discord people starting filing disputes with Alibaba (if that's how they paid) before the retesting was done and it was about a week later that their Alibaba store was closed on them. Jano is not a discord Karen and he is the testing facility, so it will be interesting how this unfolds.
Well another disinfectant was noticed in some other batches so they are doing a UGL version of a recall..
Well another disinfectant was noticed in some other batches so they are doing a UGL version of a recall..
i’ve been loosely following this, but did Jano indicate that this is a new issue? or because something strange popped up and he started testing specifically for methylparaben?So thats the 3rd contaminated product??
The Tesa has been sold since March i believe..
its a bad chemical, on the eu watchlist for being hormone disrupting. not good to have injected into yourself. just what i got from a quick google search.i’ve been loosely following this, but did Jano indicate that this is a new issue? or because something strange popped up and he started testing specifically for methylparaben?
its a bad chemical, on the eu watchlist for being hormone disrupting. not good to have injected into yourself. just what i got from a quick google search.
further research led me to find it can cause skin irriration/ allergy aswell
the problem with these chinese resellers is they're as clueless as we are on whats in the product, they should test batches first with jano & then sell to not get into shit storms like thisWidely used as an antimicrobial for protein drugs around the world, including the EU.
"“The committee … evaluated the toxicity of parabens, stating that the ‘use of methylparaben up to 0.2% of the product is not a concern for humans including the pediatric population whatever the age group.’” -European Medicines Agency 2023
These ingredients aren't accidental contamination. They're deliberately added.
Unwanted, unnecessary, and bad for stability of the peptides, but it's not like pharma chemicals used to preserve protein drugs got into a batch of protein drugs by accident.
The real question is why are vendors allowed to not disclose their excipient ingredients? All peptides have excipients. AAS sellers get hammered if they don't disclose the use of guaiacol.
I'm sure they don't want to reveal their "recipe" for various reasons, but even commercial pharma isn't allowed to do that and must publicly disclose what people are injecting into themselves when using their product. .
the problem with these chinese resellers is they're as clueless as we are on whats in the product, they should test batches first with jano & then sell to not get into shit storms like this
100%. Users need to expect more or be choosier to those who do have better transparency. I don't expect pharma grade, I just expect it to not be bathtub gin.100%. I'm sure they have no idea.
I know some vendors, when pressed, have disclosed the ingredients.
They need to go back to their suppliers and ask "What's in this, because if my customers find something I didn't tell them about is in here I'm gong to have a problem."
100%. Users need to expect more or be choosier to those who do have better transparency. I don't expect pharma grade, I just expect it to not be bathtub gin.
The real question is why are vendors allowed to not disclose their excipient ingredients? All peptides have excipients. AAS sellers get hammered if they don't disclose the use of guaiacol.
and i even feel like this is a waste, they probably buy from 5 different vendors in china, and how often do those vendors switch up the recipe/how many workers use a different recipe?Pressing vendors isn't going to do much, they just resell from different factories, they have no idea whats in the product. it's not as simple as product X has this and that..
Even now we don't know for sure which products from Chinese vendors have guaiacol. Everyone asks, nobody pay for testing. Each sales personnel gives a different answer. They probably don't even know whats that.
The only way to get answers, is to ask Jano how much he charges for an excipient breakdown and then either get vendors to pay for it (it won't happen) or users pay for it (more likely). It will not be cheap. It's the equivalent for asking for the breakdown of a blended product.
Paying an extra $170 for GCMS (on top of $300 for HPLC) will show you what's in it, but if you want the amount/weight/% of excipient used, it is going to cost more, who's going to pay for this? At some point it'll cost 500+ to test 1 peptite..
Perhaps they're expecting people to reconstitute this with sterile water as opposed to BAC water and want to prevent *visual* peptide degradation so that angry costumers don't write them tons of emails and bad reviews and ask for refunds. But I'm not too familiar with peptide production so I don't know if it's that or something elseThe question I have is why these guys are adding preservatives in the first place. I'm suspecting they they're either using same facilities to make other stuff and aren't cleaning properly, or are reusing stuff like vials that also weren't properly cleaned out at the end of the recycling process.
Otherwise we are perhaps part of someone's research project..![]()
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