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[Wizbang]

I dont think anyone besides you thinks the pictures/videos these CN sellers post are anything more than stock images. You think Heibi Wangfu or Wang Dang Do Dong whatever really has a factory?

They are all either staged or otherwise faked, this stuff is not being made in clean rooms and pharmaceutical controls are likely limited to none.

 

[Muscles’]

you guys have no idea what you’re talking about lol. Some of the Chinese factories that make the oils are very much pharmaceutical like. But like difkhead said; much easier for a home brewer to concentrate on 100 vial batches so they don’t mix up different compounds lol.

 

[Sampei]

NCATS Inxight Drugs — ETHYL OLEATE

Chemical

drugs.ncats.io

"There is a growing body of research literature that implicates FAEEs such as ethyl oleate as the toxic mediators of ethanol in the body (pancreas, liver, heart, and brain). Among the speculations is that ethyl oleate may be the toxic mediator of alcohol in fetal alcohol syndrome. The oral ingestion of ethyl oleate has been carefully studied and due to rapid degradation in the digestive tract, it appears safe for oral ingestion. Ethyl oleate is not currently approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for any injectable use.

The original formulation of Testosterone Undecanoate had to replace EO with Castor oil and BB to get FDA approval.

Anyway, as long as you aren't pregnant, don't use alcohol and drink instead of injecting EO you'll be fine.

This is kinda wrong tho... You can get progesterone injection from compounding pharmacy made all with EO as the carrier oil and that's in America..if it wasn't FDA approved how would those injection be sold?

 

[Ghoul]

This is kinda wrong tho... You can get progesterone injection from compounding pharmacy made all with EO as the carrier oil and that's in America..if it wasn't FDA approved how would those injection be sold?

There are two type of compounding pharmacies in the US. Small compounders, 503A aren't regulated by the FDA. They're controlled by state laws, and cannot send meds across state lines. They make all kinds of unapproved meds, like peptide combinations, and can freely use EO.

Large compounding pharmacies, 503B are more like small pharma factories. They supply hospitals, doctor's offices, mail order, and other pharmacies. and are regulated by the FDA.

EO isn't banned, but it's listed as "inactive" on the FDA approved excipients list and highly discouraged. There are no FDA approved drugs still sold with EO. Even the generics for discontinued brand name drugs like Delatestryl, Test-E with EO, removed EO from their formulas.

A 503B can use EO but it's rare, and only when exactly copying an older drug that was previously approved by the FDA with EO, If they mix up some new compounded med with EO they have to prove to the FDA it's not harmful, also exposing them to being sued by anyone who has a bad reaction, so they just avoid it.

 

[bananafeet]

There are two type of compounding pharmacies in the US. Small compounders, 503A aren't regulated by the FDA. They're controlled by state laws, and cannot send meds across state lines. They make all kinds of unapproved meds, like peptide combinations, and can freely use EO.

Large compounding pharmacies, 503B are more like small pharma factories. They supply hospitals, doctor's offices, mail order, and other pharmacies. and are regulated by the FDA.

EO isn't banned, but it's listed as "inactive" on the FDA approved excipients list and highly discouraged. There are no FDA approved drugs still sold with EO. Even the generics for discontinued brand name drugs like Delatestryl, Test-E with EO, removed EO from their formulas.

A 503B can use EO but it's rare, and only when exactly copying an older drug that was previously approved by the FDA with EO, If they mix up some new compounded med with EO they have to prove to the FDA it's not harmful, also exposing them to being sued by anyone who has a bad reaction, so they just avoid it.

I'm assuming a "bad reaction" would show up locally before being reflected in the bloodwork or causing systemic effects.

I mean for example you'd need some kind of redness, inflammation or pain at the injection site?

 

[dick_starbuck]

The early Yura stuff resembled the QSC oil with floaters. The newer stuff (stromusc) was all clean for me with no floaters.

I refilter everything and put into new vials because I feel like it's a simple and painless harm reduction step.

They would have to have some kind of factory due to the sheer volume of product. Literally 100,000s of vials I'd imagine.

They'd need at least an automatic bottling and capping machine.

I'm sure boutique labs exist but how many of them are just repackaged China gear anyway.

We have Neo here, hes a boutique brand.

 

[Photon]

I'm assuming a "bad reaction" would show up locally before being reflected in the bloodwork or causing systemic effects.

I mean for example you'd need some kind of redness, inflammation or pain at the injection site?

Not really.
Orals for e,g can mess the f out of the bloodwork of people. It doesn't really show up anywhere locally tho.

hsCRP/CMP labwork is pretty cheap at most places in US.

Someone looking perfectly healthy can have the worse ever bloodwork and inflammation..

 

[bananafeet]

Not really.
Orals for e,g can mess the f out of the bloodwork of people. It doesn't really show up anywhere locally tho.

Someone looking perfectly healthy can have the worse ever bloodwork and inflammation..

The context here is injectables containing ethyl oleate.

 

[Zeus45]

Its probably alot easier to use as far as mass production goes. Most domestic sources are boutique spots in comparison, much smaller operations with more attention to detail.

The larger chinese labs producing hepius are likely larger "factories" with lower skilled brewers. Think wonderbread vs sourdough from a baker.

They're both bread but... well you get it.

Well I’m going to take the L because I can’t risk using “wonder bread” testosterone oil LOL. Would rather spend $40 on sourdough bread .

Well at least the peptides and orals should be fine from HYB.

 

[Photon]

The context here is injectables containing ethyl oleate.

Its the same.
Primo for e.g seems to cause inflammation in alot of people, but it doesn't show up locally unless you check labwork.

There's a thread here about EO and people testing it out on their bodies. I havn't seen any labwork in there so far tho.

You could just buy pure EO..inject 1ml filtered. Test hsCRP before and 2-3hours after..

 

[Wizbang]

Its the same.
Primo for e.g seems to cause inflammation in alot of people, but it doesn't show up locally unless you check labwork.

There's a thread here about EO and people testing it out on their bodies. I havn't seen any labwork in there so far tho.

Doesn't primo also cause havoc with peoples prostates if they're predisposed to BPH?

 

[dick_starbuck]

you guys have no idea what you’re talking about lol. Some of the Chinese factories that make the oils are very much pharmaceutical like. But like difkhead said; much easier for a home brewer to concentrate on 100 vial batches so they don’t mix up different compounds lol.

The only one who doesn't know what their talking about is you, bud. Go on believing your CN illicit drugs are made with love and care.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Well I’m going to take the L because I can’t risk using “wonder bread” testosterone oil LOL. Would rather spend $40 on sourdough bread .

Well at least the peptides and orals should be fine from HYB.

I really like Neo on this board. Very good quality. Otherwise stick with Stanford.

I do use CN oils but I definitely filter them first.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Doesn't primo also cause havoc with peoples prostates if they're predisposed to BPH?

Personally I noticed it more with primo than mast or eq.

 

[Photon]

I really like Neo on this board. Very good quality. Otherwise stick with Stanford.

I do use CN oils but I definitely filter them first.

Have u tried Arail?
Im still waiting for Neo to release new products.

 

[Sampei]

There are two type of compounding pharmacies in the US. Small compounders, 503A aren't regulated by the FDA. They're controlled by state laws, and cannot send meds across state lines. They make all kinds of unapproved meds, like peptide combinations, and can freely use EO.

Large compounding pharmacies, 503B are more like small pharma factories. They supply hospitals, doctor's offices, mail order, and other pharmacies. and are regulated by the FDA.

EO isn't banned, but it's listed as "inactive" on the FDA approved excipients list and highly discouraged. There are no FDA approved drugs still sold with EO. Even the generics for discontinued brand name drugs like Delatestryl, Test-E with EO, removed EO from their formulas.

A 503B can use EO but it's rare, and only when exactly copying an older drug that was previously approved by the FDA with EO, If they mix up some new compounded med with EO they have to prove to the FDA it's not harmful, also exposing them to being sued by anyone who has a bad reaction, so they just avoid it.

Thanks for the explanation, as I'm not from the USA I thought it was all regulated under the FDA.

It is widely used for progesterone injection and very much loves by those women using it even so it's more expensive all reports smoother and less pain free injection.

Not saying it's a testament to the safety of EO, just reporting information I have gathered while researching EO.

 

[Sampei]

Its the same.
Primo for e.g seems to cause inflammation in alot of people, but it doesn't show up locally unless you check labwork.

There's a thread here about EO and people testing it out on their bodies. I havn't seen any labwork in there so far tho.

You could just buy pure EO..inject 1ml filtered. Test hsCRP before and 2-3hours after..

Primo in my experience can cause high CRP due to PIP. It's not like it's bad for your body but anytime one get PIP in general that is gonna raise CRP and primo easily gives PIP.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Have u tried Arail?
Im still waiting for Neo to release new products.

Yes im using their deca right now actually. Otherwise ive used their TNE and L-carnitine. Very satisfied with them.

 

[Zeus45]

I really like Neo on this board. Very good quality. Otherwise stick with Stanford.

I do use CN oils but I definitely filter them first.

You’re the man appreciate it. I wasted $150 but whatever my health is everything. I’ve had awful organ damage for steroid abuse

The cheap 36iu kits make up for the loss technically or whatever lmao

 

[dick_starbuck]

You’re the man appreciate it. I wasted $150 but whatever my health is everything. I’ve had awful organ damage for steroid abuse

The cheap 36iu kits make up for the loss technically or whatever lmao

How did you waste 150 bucks? If you mean by buying oils from a CN dealer dont worry about it. If youre iffy about them just pass em through a .22 PTFE syringe filter into a fresh vial. You can get everything off amazon. Although id go with a Cobetter filter instead.

Thats what I do and no issues so far.