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[verylargeshoes]

How did you waste 150 bucks? If you mean by buying oils from a CN dealer dont worry about it. If youre iffy about them just pass em through a .22 PTFE syringe filter into a fresh vial. You can get everything off amazon. Although id go with a Cobetter filter instead.

Thats what I do and no issues so far.

I’ve bought plenty of CN oils (and US oils, too), and I’ve started filtering. But there are so many sins that filter can’t atone for. It’ll pull out some bacteria, but what if BA was never added? That stuff will just grow back after a few uses in a multi-dose vial. What if the API is the wrong one, or at low purity? What about undisclosed EO and guaiacol?

 

[Ghoul]

I’ve bought plenty of CN oils (and US oils, too), and I’ve started filtering. But there are so many sins that filter can’t atone for. It’ll pull out some bacteria, but what if BA was never added? That stuff will just grow back after a few uses in a multi-dose vial. What if the API is the wrong one, or at low purity? What about undisclosed EO and guaiacol?

Attainable Harm Reduction > Impossible Harm Elimination

 

[bananafeet]

I’ve bought plenty of CN oils (and US oils, too), and I’ve started filtering. But there are so many sins that filter can’t atone for. It’ll pull out some bacteria, but what if BA was never added? That stuff will just grow back after a few uses in a multi-dose vial. What if the API is the wrong one, or at low purity? What about undisclosed EO and guaiacol?

How would taking a bunch of tested pharmaceutical testosterone reduce the risks?

Besides heavy metals or other additives you are still running long term risks with your health.

Regardless of where the gear comes from the same health precautions apply. Start out with a small injection like 0.1ml and record where you injected it. Then gradually increase the dose.

Get your bloods tested after a few weeks to check CRP etc....

I had terrible reactions from Primoteston Depot which is pharma stuff from my clinic. Someone even had an allergic reaction to BB.

 

[bananafeet]

I’ve bought plenty of CN oils (and US oils, too), and I’ve started filtering. But there are so many sins that filter can’t atone for. It’ll pull out some bacteria, but what if BA was never added? That stuff will just grow back after a few uses in a multi-dose vial. What if the API is the wrong one, or at low purity? What about undisclosed EO and guaiacol?

Anaphylaxis Triggered by Benzyl Benzoate in a Preparation of Depot Testosterone Undecanoate - PMC

We report the first case of an anaphylactic reaction to Reandron 1000 (depot testosterone undecanoate with a castor oil and benzyl benzoate vehicle). While considered to have a favourable safety profile, serious complications such as oil embolism ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[verylargeshoes]

Attainable Harm Reduction > Impossible Harm Elimination

My point was “just run it through a filter” is a little glib. Absolutely run it through a filter. Don’t underestimate all the remaining risks and unknowns.

Some of those unknowns can be reduced by homebrewing or buying from more reputable sources with a longer track record, or paying for more expensive testing. Some can’t.

 

[Zeus45]

How did you waste 150 bucks? If you mean by buying oils from a CN dealer dont worry about it. If youre iffy about them just pass em through a .22 PTFE syringe filter into a fresh vial. You can get everything off amazon. Although id go with a Cobetter filter instead.

Thats what I do and no issues so far.

Honestly I’m not going to filter gear. I’d rather waste $150 then do that and possibly fuck it up or waste my time even more.

Nobody can give me a clear answer about the dangers of using these Chinese quality oils. I would’ve never purchased these oils if I knew I had to filter the gear and other nonsense

 

[Photon]

Honestly I’m not going to filter gear. I’d rather waste $150 then do that and possibly fuck it up or waste my time even more.

Nobody can give me a clear answer about the dangers of using these Chinese quality oils. I would’ve never purchased these oils if I knew I had to filter the gear and other nonsense

All UGL should be filtered.
Nothing to do with Chinese oils.

You don't know if the seller is reselling relabeled Chinese oils or oils they brewed in their toilet. Nobody can give you a clear answer because nobody knows what you received. Hell, we don't even know what we get and where it's from when we purchase from UGL.

 

[verylargeshoes]

All UGL should be filtered.
Nothing to do with Chinese oils.

At worst it’s just a redundant step that adds a little time and cost. At “best” (most usefulness), you’re adding the final vital step in the brewing process without which you are at high risk for infections, and you have no way of knowing that the source actually performed that step or not.

None of these UGLs are running professional factories with cGMP and quality checks. They’re just humans hopefully doing their best. I make mistakes, I assume these folks can as well. Given how easy (re-)filtering is, and how serious a problem it can prevent, I’ve definitely got that religion now.

My last Emergency Room visit took about 8 hours. I can do a lot of filtering in that time to prevent future ER visits, never mind the cost of potential lasting health impacts, lost work, etc. It’s a good trade.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

Honestly I’m not going to filter gear. I’d rather waste $150 then do that and possibly fuck it up or waste my time even more.

Nobody can give me a clear answer about the dangers of using these Chinese quality oils. I would’ve never purchased these oils if I knew I had to filter the gear and other nonsense

As an old timer I say pin it. If there's an issue it will become apparent. If the oils are like their peptides they're constantly tested for mass, purity and molds, toxins and contaminants. Stairway to grey has like 600 plus tests a year of the same 8 or 10 vendors over and over. Theyre held accountable to an extent. Im guessing the oils would be solid if theyre also a big peptide player. 9 years here I haven't heard a lot of horror stories about guys getting infections, abscesses, etc.... with the exception of one dude who's pics looked like a shark ate 80% of an ass cheek. It was an abscess turned bad infection while hospitalized and pretty gory.

 

[verylargeshoes]

As an old timer I say pin it. If there's an issue it will become apparent.

Is that meant to be comforting or foreboding? :-/

 

[BamaCrazy]

Is that meant to be comforting or foreboding? :-/

That’s the FAAFO method

 

[dick_starbuck]

Honestly I’m not going to filter gear. I’d rather waste $150 then do that and possibly fuck it up or waste my time even more.

Nobody can give me a clear answer about the dangers of using these Chinese quality oils. I would’ve never purchased these oils if I knew I had to filter the gear and other nonsense

Its unbelievably easy. I really cant imagine you messing it up.

Saying there is "danger" is very... hyperbolic.

 

[Zeus45]

Its unbelievably easy. I really cant imagine you messing it up.

Saying there is "danger" is very... hyperbolic.

You’re right, most guys here aren’t filtering Chinese oils and I’m sure they’re doing okay.

I just have had many health problems from steroids and I’m only doing test and GH from here out. Just cautious I’ll get even sicker if I pin some toxic oils. I used QSC oils in the past and felt fine so I guess I’m just tripping lol.

 

[Photon]

Hi @Yura(HYB)

Any chance of adding Avanafil tabs?
100mg/200mg?

 

[Muscles’]

The only one who doesn't know what they’re talking about is you, bud. Go on believing your CN illicit drugs are made with love and care.

I get the agenda on meso to push us domestic sources but don’t speak out of your ass and claim a homebrewer is better than factories in China who’ve been making steroids for 20 plus years.

why you pushing neo and standford so hard, little twatbuck

 

[dick_starbuck]

I get the agenda on meso to push us domestic sources but don’t speak out of your ass and claim a homebrewer is better than factories in China who’ve been making steroids for 20 plus years.

why you pushing neo and standford so hard, little twatbuck

There is no "agenda" on meso to push domestic sources. If anything, what's pushed here is 9 dollar bottles of CN test. The only agenda on meso is "harm reduction".

Your ad-hominem attacks just showcase that you're salty about being wrong.

Enjoy your floaters!

 

[BamaCrazy]

I get the agenda on meso to push us domestic sources but don’t speak out of your ass and claim a homebrewer is better than factories in China who’ve been making steroids for 20 plus years.

why you pushing neo and standford so hard, little twatbuck

Do you really believe China oils are higher quality than Stan’s oils? Serious question

 

[Mr.Meat]

Anybody here used Hyb's 5mg Triz? If yes, how was it?

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Do you really believe China oils are higher quality than Stan’s oils? Serious question

Let’s be real. Who can actually answer that? It’s a silly question. Maybe ask for lab tours and report back. Otherwise the conversation is moot. Who cares.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Let’s be real. Who can actually answer that? It’s a silly question. Maybe ask for lab tours and report back. Otherwise the conversation is moot. Who cares.

When have you read someone claiming his oils are underfilled, low purity, full of rubber material, hairs, bacteria, contaminated with other compounds, test poorly, etc? Hell, you cannot even say his prices are high for a Domestic vendor.

But China oils have received many of the above complaints over the years.