Cycle for cardio/endurance?

Have a bjj fight in late august. Looking for the best cycle for it, since it's 2 months out.

Was thinking Cardarine 20mg/day.

Also was thinking Test/EQ. I wasn't sure if I should go low with like 300test/150eq, or something higher like 500test/350eq. The main focus would be on endurance and cardio and performing for the fight.

Thanks. Otherwise I'd just cruise on whatever my cruise test dose was, I think usually 150mg Test (200 had me at e2 77, which is fine I guess, but figured 200 was too high for cruise).
 
the low Test/EQ sounds good, just be aware that the EQ will take ~5 weeks until levels saturate.
Cardarine works great, but cancer/unregulated growth risk is real. 2 people in my vicinity got some sort of growth (not malignant, but still) from it, after ~2 and ~4 months continous use (around 20 mg/day) respectively. lump on/in elbow and pseudo-gyno (lump on chest, not gyno tho because he took nothing to raise E2)

Remember, just doing cardio frequently and grappling is half the fight. having fun is the other half. or something about winning. idk.
 
Have a bjj fight in late august. Looking for the best cycle for it, since it's 2 months out.

Was thinking Cardarine 20mg/day.

Also was thinking Test/EQ. I wasn't sure if I should go low with like 300test/150eq, or something higher like 500test/350eq. The main focus would be on endurance and cardio and performing for the fight.

Thanks. Otherwise I'd just cruise on whatever my cruise test dose was, I think usually 150mg Test (200 had me at e2 77, which is fine I guess, but figured 200 was too high for cruise).
look into gw0742 its the succesor of cardarine, more potent & safer in animal models.

epo is hot with fighters aswell.

testosterone above 300 is no go for fights fucks with cardio
 
Seems like gw0742 has some issues too.

Yeah sounds like test really isn't great for cardio. I wonder if I should do 300/200 or should I go for like 200/100...

I'll uh keep the cardarine to 8 (maybe 7?) weeks at 20mg. I could also go lower?

Or what if I just ran it for only 4 weeks? Does it build up? So I really need to run it for 8 weeks?
 
Seems like gw0742 has some issues too.

Yeah sounds like test really isn't great for cardio. I wonder if I should do 300/200 or should I go for like 200/100...

I'll uh keep the cardarine to 8 (maybe 7?) weeks at 20mg. I could also go lower?

Or what if I just ran it for only 4 weeks? Does it build up? So I really need to run it for 8 weeks?

you'd probably be fine on 300 test/200 eq, but start at 200/100 and see how you respond. I'd also consider masteron for some increased neural drive, leaness/less water retention and managing some potential estrogen from the testosterone.

Be aware that some people can crush their estrogen with too low testosterone dosages with EQ, and the addition of masteron might exacerbate that.

On the cardarine, you notice that the same day you take it in my experience so theres not much build up time or anything like that. Im not that experienced with it though.
 
Lot of factors come into play here. Are you going to be sucking weight the last few weeks or are you close to comp weight? As a few other lads mentioned EQ due to its esters takes a few weeks to get going but is a solid choice to bump up RBC and endurance. I’m a fan of turinabol as well for endurance/athletic performance. It’s fairly cheap and fast acting. You can titrate up or down depending on your needs. I would keep the test around 150-300 depending on how you metabolize the compound. No use in adding water weight or extra lbs as that’ll just tank your cardio.

Really what you’re looking at is being able to recover from your training leading up to the competition. 4-5 days of rolling a week should have you ready. Make sure to attend any comp classes if your school offers them. It’s a great way to push the pace and engage in scenario rolling, down by 2, gotta get an escape or take down. Plus learning to push when you’re tired. If this is your first competition then just worry about nothing but showing up and competing. The experience alone will be the most valuable asset as it will show your strengths and weaknesses like none other. A mild cycle shines great for sport BJJ as you can push harder than most, hold onto muscle as you’re leaning out, and recover from the training. Where as most people are limping into fight week drained from the training and weight cut!

Best of luck lad. Represent yourself and your academy wel!
 
Seems like gw0742 has some issues too.

Yeah sounds like test really isn't great for cardio. I wonder if I should do 300/200 or should I go for like 200/100...

I'll uh keep the cardarine to 8 (maybe 7?) weeks at 20mg. I could also go lower?

Or what if I just ran it for only 4 weeks? Does it build up? So I really need to run it for 8 weeks?
my personal experience with cardarine is the the cardio that felt hard before it just feelsl like a fucking breeze, similar to clen, damn its been an hour already? i felt like it was 2minutes of cardio only
 
you'd probably be fine on 300 test/200 eq, but start at 200/100 and see how you respond. I'd also consider masteron for some increased neural drive, leaness/less water retention and managing some potential estrogen from the testosterone.

Be aware that some people can crush their estrogen with too low testosterone dosages with EQ, and the addition of masteron might exacerbate that.

On the cardarine, you notice that the same day you take it in my experience so theres not much build up time or anything like that. Im not that experienced with it though.

I feel like with how slow EQ is to build up, it might be hard to judge 300/200 vs 200/100 in the 8 weeks I have coming up though.

The main thing I'm looking for is probably the endurance benefits of EQ rather than strength, I'm hoping that the cardio hit of 300 vs 200 test is smaller than the cardio gain of 100 vs 200 EQ, if that makes sense?

Yeah I've heard cardarine is rather instant, so I'm wondering if there's any point in running 8 weeks over 4? I mean why not just run it 2 weeks? Will 8 weeks have more cardio benefits over 4 week?

Lot of factors come into play here. Are you going to be sucking weight the last few weeks or are you close to comp weight? As a few other lads mentioned EQ due to its esters takes a few weeks to get going but is a solid choice to bump up RBC and endurance. I’m a fan of turinabol as well for endurance/athletic performance. It’s fairly cheap and fast acting. You can titrate up or down depending on your needs. I would keep the test around 150-300 depending on how you metabolize the compound. No use in adding water weight or extra lbs as that’ll just tank your cardio.

Really what you’re looking at is being able to recover from your training leading up to the competition. 4-5 days of rolling a week should have you ready. Make sure to attend any comp classes if your school offers them. It’s a great way to push the pace and engage in scenario rolling, down by 2, gotta get an escape or take down. Plus learning to push when you’re tired. If this is your first competition then just worry about nothing but showing up and competing. The experience alone will be the most valuable asset as it will show your strengths and weaknesses like none other. A mild cycle shines great for sport BJJ as you can push harder than most, hold onto muscle as you’re leaning out, and recover from the training. Where as most people are limping into fight week drained from the training and weight cut!

Best of luck lad. Represent yourself and your academy wel!

I have to lose about 10lbs in next 2 months. I'm coming off a 350test/350tren/140DHB cycle so I actually imagine I'll drop a good 5-8lbs in the next 2-3 weeks just because on/off cycle I usually +/- 10lbs immediately. But, I am focused on cutting right now.

I don't know much about tbol, but I'm all ears. I've ran var and anadrol? or something before, orals seem to trash lipids for very little gain, I don't see why to ever use orals over injectables these days. I get they are fast acting but this tournament is in 8 weeks, it's no surprise...

Right now I'm rolling twice a day to prep, with multiple comp classes, and cross training at a few gyms as well just to make sure I meet extra comp classes. I'm still trying to lift 6x a week but that frequency might have to go down a bit. I've competed many many times before, international, show matches, IBJJF and every other tournament circuit, etc...

I really don't know much about tbol, happy to add it to the cycle.

But I guess right now I'm not sure of 300Test/200EQ vs 200Test/100EQ, and then we got 20mg cardarine daily, which I'm not sure to just run 4 weeks or go with 8 weeks. Also don't know much about tbol, I always prefer injectables but I *guess* it could make sense since the only cardio improving injectable is EQ and there's only so much EQ I can run on low test.

Also curious on like, why not fuck it and run like 500/300 or even 1g/600 if EQ is that great for cardio. Or is it not lol

Not gonna run mast when I already have an E2 lowering compound in EQ, which seems to be the biggest limiting factor in how much I can run. If anything I'd run something like... I dunno, NPP? so I could raise my E2 for more EQ to fit in without crashing it.
 
Bump.

Curious about 300/200 test/eq vs maybe like, 200/150 or cruise dosage of 150/100? Or why not 500/300 if eq is so great at performance?

Otherwise I feel like I'm at 20mg daily of tbol 4 weeks out (or should I take it 5, 6, 7 weeks out?) and 20mg daily of cardarine. Seems like people complain about sides of tbol above 40mg.
 
Why so much AAS?

Your body will have a hard time oxygenating all the tissue and EQ will greatly push your HT. No need for more than 300-400 total, only getting diminishing returns. Stay away from orals too.

For endurance and cardiovascular efficiency use stuff like ITPP, Motsc, carnitine, slu, bit of clen and get your body used to it by doing high intensity cardio

Running +800mg up to 1-2g of AAS wont help with endurance
 
lol i find some new rabbit hole every day.

I think I'm gonna go 200test/100eq, 20mg cardarine, and 20mg tbol 4 weeks out. Cardarine and tbol seem highly recommended, EQ too but lower test seems to be the recommendation so only so much EQ I can run.

Halo on the last week is definitely a bit on the exotic side, we'll see.

Someone offered me free cheque drops too lol. That seems wildly unpredictable to do for a fight I've spent a year training for.
 
Probably trt dose of test epo gh and if u need extra strenght some anavar/tbol but still low dose keep in mind detection time :)
 
7 weeks out from the fight.

Starting 200/100 test/eq. I wonder if frontloading would be a good idea? Guess it doesn't matter too much, I mean I just really want it kicked by the fight right, it's not like it matters during training?

Should do 20mg cardarine now - 7 weeks. Is cardarine instant? Should I take like 40mg or something pre-fight, maybe try it a few times before a hard training session? I should dose this before BJJ sessions right (not before weightlifting), like 30 min before?

Tbol 25mg 4 weeks out - I think longer risks side effects, stomach issues. Again, is this instant? perhaps take more befoer fight day, try it a hard training session before, like 50mg or something?

Finally Halo 1 week out 10mg.

Worried about high blood pressure as well possibilities - should I be taking telmisartan, or cialias/viagra? My BP is generally around 135 on my home reader which is consistently like 10 points higher than readings at doctor's offices.

Should I hold the orals sublingual?

Going to take TUDCA/NAC for liver support, which I was running already due to a tren cycle I stopped (which slightly raises my liver values)
 
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Wondering if I should bump tbol to 5 weeks (would give me a week on for a fight before my big fight)

Also wondering to run halo 10mg for 2 weeks instead of 1...

Wonder if any benefit to a higher dose of either right before the big fight too?

Also, is there any weight gain? I notice with cycles I always gain just 10lbs In a week (and it goes away just as fast when I stop a cycle), such as my tren/dhb cycles (350/150). Don't want to blow up on weight right before weigh in
 
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