Peptide that is close to botox?

[RedSalmon]

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This is a good body cream. I use it for my hands and feet, but it's too thick and fat for the face.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

I know GHK-CU is a good aesthetic peptide and hgh for skin too and was wondering if there are any others like that or anything like botox?

Any peptides that is as close as you can get to botox that anyone is aware of?

Just get botox.....

 

[The Answ3r]

Not sure about Botox, but after a month on GHK, the only thing I’ve gained is a collection of red blotches and a new respect for needles that sting. No glowing skin, no miracles - just looking like I lost a slap fight with a cactus. I gave it a fair shot, but yeah… I’m tapping out. GHK, it’s not me - it’s you.

 

[Ateam2023]

Forehead and between the eyes. I had massive frown lines when I started. Now it's totally smooth. I go once every 4 months.

Someone told me all the gear and making faces while lifting overdevelops facial muscles and makes the wrinkles much worse. It was definitely true in my case.

how many units do you normally get every 4 months?

 

[juicebro]

how many units do you normally get every 4 months?

Idk I haven't asked. Usually I get a second visit a week or two after the first one if I still have movement and they do as much as is needed. The price doesn't change

 

[Photon]

Idk I haven't asked. Usually I get a second visit a week or two after the first one if I still have movement and they do as much as is needed. The price doesn't change

Do you pay more for Botox/dysport or do you stick to Xeomin/Jeu?

how many units do you normally get every 4 months?

You do not need to do everything in 1 day. You can always fill an insulin pen and adjust over a week or two. It's relatively easy to do, i inject for some people i know..
-- Some people need more, more muscles, more IU.
-- Some people get partial immunity, needs more IU. The more expensive pharmaceuticals are supposedly "cleaner" and thus result in less immunity.
-- Do you want a plastic like face or do you want facial expression?

Where to inject?
You can go to a professional the first time, ask her to mark everything on the face and then u take a zillion pictures and just do the same spots.

 

[juicebro]

Do you pay more for Botox/dysport or do you stick to Xeomin/Jeu?



You do not need to do everything in 1 day. You can always fill an insulin pen and adjust over a week or two. It's relatively easy to do, i inject for some people i know..
-- Some people need more, more muscles, more IU.
-- Some people get partial immunity, needs more IU. The more expensive pharmaceuticals are supposedly "cleaner" and thus result in less immunity.
-- Do you want a plastic like face or do you want facial expression?

Where to inject?
You can go to a professional the first time, ask her to mark everything on the face and then u take a zillion pictures and just do the same spots.

I've only tried Botox and dysport. Didn't notice a difference between the two. I get a pretty good deal. 250$ no matter how many units are needed. I think she charges $50 just to inject if you bring your own product. Not worth the hassle for me since I only need it in my forehead.

 

[Ateam2023]

I've only tried Botox and dysport. Didn't notice a difference between the two. I get a pretty good deal. 250$ no matter how many units are needed. I think she charges $50 just to inject if you bring your own product. Not worth the hassle for me since I only need it in my forehead.

i just did 40 units of botox for $300 , which was a good deal in my area, but i could easily do it myself if i knew a good spot to buy real botox, i have a meomo korean hookup, that seems reasonable if its actually legit, i just dont want to get bunk botox,,

 

[Photon]

i just did 40 units of botox for $300 , which was a good deal in my area, but i could easily do it myself if i knew a good spot to buy real botox, i have a meomo korean hookup, that seems reasonable if its actually legit, i just dont want to get bunk botox,,

The PCT sources have it, but is yours really Botox or some Korea branded tox? Most places charge extra for Allergan Botox. There's places that sell it, however you don't really know if it's real..printing counterfeit boxes and labels aren't difficult..I also have not figured out how to tell if it's real.

If yours is real Allergan Botox and not Korea/china branded tox, then 300$ is a pretty good deal. It's $252 from PCT24x7 for 50 units.

The US uses a different set of boxes vs the rest of the world, the US boxes have much better anti counterfeiting.

 

[Ateam2023]

The PCT sources have it, but is yours really Botox or some Korea branded tox? Most places charge extra for Allergan Botox. There's places that sell it, however you don't really know if it's real..printing counterfeit boxes and labels aren't difficult..I also have not figured out how to tell if it's real.

If yours is real Allergan Botox and not Korea/china branded tox, then 300$ is a pretty good deal. It's $252 from PCT24x7 for 50 units.

The US uses a different set of boxes vs the rest of the world, the US boxes have much better anti counterfeiting.

it was the real deal, i made sure to make them mix everything in front of me , i also used a mirror to watch her inject , the angle, depth etc,, Easy paesy if i can find real botox,,

 

[Ateam2023]

The PCT sources have it, but is yours really Botox or some Korea branded tox? Most places charge extra for Allergan Botox. There's places that sell it, however you don't really know if it's real..printing counterfeit boxes and labels aren't difficult..I also have not figured out how to tell if it's real.

If yours is real Allergan Botox and not Korea/china branded tox, then 300$ is a pretty good deal. It's $252 from PCT24x7 for 50 units.

The US uses a different set of boxes vs the rest of the world, the US boxes have much better anti counterfeiting.

you can get "Allergan botox" from pct247?

 

[Photon]

you can get "Allergan botox" from pct247?

The 50IU is 252, yes.
Which is why i said 300 is a good deal.

You dont need to worry about it degrading during shipment.

 

[Ateam2023]

The 50IU is 252, yes.
Which is why i said 300 is a good deal.

You dont need to worry about it degrading during shipment.

awesomeness, thank you for this information,,

 

[maxtom]

GHK-CU, SNAP-8, Tretinoin are very hot!

 

[RedSalmon]

Most commonly it's 5-10mg daily, or 10-20mg every other day, as tolerated. The "normal" acne treatment dose is 1mg/kg daily by comparison. I used 160mg/day for several months during my "full course" acne "cure".

Sides, if any, at the low doses are very minor and typically resolve after a month or so of use:

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And how long did your cycle last?

 

[Ghoul]

And how long did your cycle last?

The end point for me was 220mg/kg total cumulative dose, roughly 23,000mg total, and I was able to reach that in 5 months. Obviously the higher your daily dose the faster you can reach it. I started very cautiously, 10mg/day, but near the end I was up to 2mg/kg per day split into 2 doses. It doesn't seem to matter how long it takes to reach the cumulative dose, outcomes are the same, but I accepted harsher sides to get it over with faster.

 

[Photon]

The end point for me was 220mg/kg total cumulative dose, roughly 23,000mg total, and I was able to reach that in 5 months. Obviously the higher your daily dose the faster you can reach it. I started very cautiously, 10mg/day, but near the end I was up to 2mg/kg per day split into 2 doses. It doesn't seem to matter how long it takes to reach the cumulative dose, outcomes are the same, but I accepted harsher sides to get it over with faster.

Did you account for underdosing or degradation?

I did 225mg/kg cumulative but my Sotret NF was 20% underdosed, which means technically i only hit 180mg/kg. I figured I'll get there someday as long as i take a low dose everyday.

I would assume those who get it by US Pharma will have less degradation and variation per pill.

 

[RedSalmon]

The end point for me was 220mg/kg total cumulative dose, roughly 23,000mg total, and I was able to reach that in 5 months. Obviously the higher your daily dose the faster you can reach it. I started very cautiously, 10mg/day, but near the end I was up to 2mg/kg per day split into 2 doses. It doesn't seem to matter how long it takes to reach the cumulative dose, outcomes are the same, but I accepted harsher sides to get it over with faster.

Thanks for the detailed stats! Can I ask why you chose a cumulative dose of 220 mg per kg? I read that the effective cumulative dose of Accutane is usually around 120-150 mg/kg, and some sources even say 100-120 mg/kg.

 

[Ghoul]

Thanks for the detailed stats! Can I ask why you chose a cumulative dose of 220 mg per kg? I read that the effective cumulative dose of Accutane is usually around 120-150 mg/kg, and some sources even say 100-120 mg/kg.

A meta study found the highest chances of never requiring a 2nd course treatment correlated with two factors: cumulative doses of at least 220mg/kg and continuing to take isotretinoin at least 51 days after full acne clearance.

The higher cumulative dose is especially important for permanently eliminating trunk acne, vs facial acne which can be handled with lower cumulative doses.

 

[RedSalmon]

A meta study found the highest chances of never requiring a 2nd course treatment correlated with two factors: cumulative doses of at least 220mg/kg and continuing to take isotretinoin at least 51 days after full acne clearance.

The higher cumulative dose is especially important for permanently eliminating trunk acne, vs facial acne which can be handled with lower cumulative doses.

Interesting! Thanks for the info. By the way, with that cumulative dose, besides acne clearing up, did you notice any other improvements in your skin? Like fewer wrinkles, more even skin tone, smaller pores, stuff like that?