Okay, due to a prior conversation, I have to ask: did you mean "tasted" or "tested".
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Whistles77
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Tried to order a few items from the international list that im having trouble sourcing. Was told OOS and US orders wont ship from intl. Asked for any help in other sources of the products, but that wasn't received well. Bit annoying that they likely have what they want, but won't sell it. I guess they are really trying to protect their shipping route with small number of larger shipments than lots of small ones.
Gonz0
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Any feedback on their gh ?
Ghoul
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The pricing (at a quick glance) didn't look hugely better in the China warehouse vs. their US warehouse. Given a choice between sourcing from a US warehouse and a China warehouse at < 20-25% price difference, all other things being equal, I'll buy US every single time.
First off, I'm a patriot and I buy American.
Second, while I haven't lost a while package in transit yet, I have received some packages ridden very hard, and have had 2-3 vials crushed. Also, the ten-to-infinite day additional transit time can really fuck with my planning. So I end up stockpiling a bunch of stuff just in case I *may* need it at some time in the future, which extra cost erases the Chinese WH price advantage. But that may just be my hoarding tendencies.
Ghoul
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The problem is if shipping lines really break down, and domestic becomes the only option (obviously stocked by smuggling some another way), prices will go up significantly.
CBP already figured this out. You don't need to catch every package of Chinese contraband. Catch 1 in 500, then just fine the shipping company $50,000, and the shipping company will be motivated enough to figure out how to stop the naughty stuff from getting into their cargo containers from then on.
Earlier this year they started making these companies post multi hundred thousand dollar bonds to be allowed to bring cargo to the US. When a fine is levied, CBP literally just withdraws it from the bond account.
I like how you're always thinking at a macro scale. That is indeed a real concern.
Apparently heroin and fentanyl are now dirt cheap, and more pure than ever, so maybe we'll get lucky and the cartels will get into the AAS market.
Ghoul
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That's wishful thinking going around.. Fentanyl purity is going down, being cut with heroin of all things (lol). Prices haven't increased because cartels and dealers are switching to other drugs that are even deadlier, using non-controlled precursors. But fentanyl itself is losing purity as labs in Mexican are losing access to precursors.
"China — a major source for precursor chemicals — also cracked down on the illicit exports under pressure from the Biden administration. By the end of last year, fentanyl producers “were struggling to find the typical precursor. They were cooking and experimenting with all kinds of stuff,” Felbab-Brown said."
"The purity rate of fentanyl is also going down, according to the DEA’s annual Drug Threat Assessment. Ed Sisco, a chemist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which has an independent drug-analysis program, said there are a growing number of additives in fentanyl samples — including the less-potent heroin.
“The increase of heroin could be the thing that’s showing us there’s a strain in the fentanyl supply,” he said. Producing heroin is more costly and labor-intensive than cooking fentanyl; dealers could be adding it since they have a shortage. "
dinfar1337
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i really like how companies operate in us, they just comply with this and make sure no illegal stuff is shipped through them?
if that was done in eu 0 shipping companies would be available lmao, you're being too big of a hassle to deal with.
Ghoul
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Last year more and more "shipping lines" to the US were being lost. Even QSC had this problem. Once the company found out customs declarations were false (US customs gave them warnings about fines) they would stop accepting packages from that sender.
One big shipment got returned to QSC when it was only half way to the US, and had to be sent via another shipping company adding an extra month.
But eventually, you run out of shipping options, and the shippers may only
work with trusted senders.
Anyway, the point is, the harder this gets, the worse it is for us. Maybe these UGL should just send peptide and rHGH raws, and make finished vials in the US.
1kg rHGH raw can make 100,000+ 24iu vials, and although it's not legal, no one is really out there trying hard to bust anyone for it. It's not a "community destroying" kind of drug.
We all know what group. She know Im in Meso . I dont get into politics
Lol you got me bro
Good to know, thanks man
It came back at high purity low dimer . Got a kit for a buddy . He is loving them.
Just to be contrary: if I were a shady source, I’d send my best product to a buying group that’s known to test. And save the crappy stuff for individual buyers.
Today I found out I’m out of touch with illegal opioid trends.
Where’s the Meso for junkies?
Ghoul
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dinfar1337
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there is no such thing, they probably make thousands of vials at once, then make 1 semi manual to ensure everything is perfect and send that 1 vial for testing.
batches are the biggest bullshit to date
There's always that possibility.The way I see it ,why play those games just to make a quick buck when you can make so much more by keeping your reputation. These sources don't know who is who and who is going to test or not. Eventually if they are shady it would definitely come up to the surface and they'll be gone.
There's definitely evidence of shady behavior of sources if you look around. Sometimes an "oopsie, you got 5mg Anavar when you ordered 50mg, mistake in packing", sometimes people ordering locally brewed oil and getting Chinese. Or in the Janoshik threads, receiving pure vitamin powder when ordering AAS raws. There's plenty of incentive to cut some corners in this environment. I don't necessarily believe a source would brew up "good" and "bad" batches deliberately, but they sure as hell would buy some untested third party stock when they run out and need to fill an order.
Not saying WWB is doing any of that -- I'm a pretty happy customer. Just trying to be constructively paranoid.
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