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I've run into one vendor (not on this site) who swears they don't. Never tested it or tried it. I think your statement is good assumption until proven otherwise.

I believe Q doesn't so it's definitely possible for Chinese oils to not have EO, but that vendors gone lol.

The number of complaints they got of crashed gear during winter lmao.
 
I’m definitely trying PRP before I get a second rotator cuff surgery. That 6 month recovery was brutal.
Was it really? That's good to know. Just after I posted this did chest/tti's. Shoulder is now crunching/clicking something fierce. Already was but seems to be worse. I think with the cortisone shot its just masking the pain and I may be tearing it up more. I'll see my doc next week and talk about prp.
 
thanks for info they dont even know whats in the shit they're selling they're just resellers. assuming you already bought and used,

check your CRP numbers through bloodwork and assess if you can tolerate it
That’s been my policy also. I’ve checked CRP when running TRT only with China oils and I had no issues. I’ve checked CRP a few days after injecting TNE with guaiacol and my CRP was out of range. Same for Primo. Out of range regardless of source.

I source can tell you today that their oils have no EO and that might be true today. But not next week. Or the next batch. Unless you are buying from a trusted Domestic source who tests raws and finished product you will never know the truth unless you test what you buy yourself.

Personally EO is fine for me. I don’t even mind a little guaiacol occasionally. But screw Primo. I’m done with that compound.
 
Was it really? That's good to know. Just after I posted this did chest/tti's. Shoulder is now crunching/clicking something fierce. Already was but seems to be worse. I think with the cortisone shot its just masking the pain and I may be tearing it up more. I'll see my doc next week and talk about prp.
I had left rotator cuff surgery and a bicep tenodesis in 2015. The first two months were pretty awful. I had to sleep in a recliner the first couple of weeks. I couldn’t hold anything heavier than a coffee cup in my left hand because of the bicep surgery. It took over 6 months for some of my strength to return. And 12 months to get back to 100% strength and range of motion.

I’ll try anything before I have a second surgery. It’s $700 per shoulder for PRP and around $3K for stem cell. And neither are 100% guaranteed to help much. But I’ll still try when the time comes.
 
I believe Q doesn't so it's definitely possible for Chinese oils to not have EO, but that vendors gone lol.

The number of complaints they got of crashed gear during winter lmao.
That’s true. My Test C 250 from QSC has crashed twice in a house that’s stays around 74-76 degrees.
 
I had left rotator cuff surgery and a bicep tenodesis in 2015. The first two months were pretty awful. I had to sleep in a recliner the first couple of weeks. I couldn’t hold anything heavier than a coffee cup in my left hand because of the bicep surgery. It took over 6 months for some of my strength to return. And 12 months to get back to 100% strength and range of motion.

I’ll try anything before I have a second surgery. It’s $700 per shoulder for PRP and around $3K for stem cell. And neither are 100% guaranteed to help much. But I’ll still try when the time comes.
Dang that's rough for sure.
 
I’m definitely trying PRP before I get a second rotator cuff surgery. That 6 month recovery was brutal.
i just spoke to the surgeon today and i may need a full shoulder replacement, since this re-rupture/full tear of my rotator cuff and biceps tendon, he ordered a better Mri to make sure ,(the mri i got was a crap quality") so this surgeon is through i big time sports medicine outfit, not some "surgery center" so i feel more confident that i will get better results, He knows im into training he was shocked how much strength i do have still , but the tears are severe so , fml
 
That’s been my policy also. I’ve checked CRP when running TRT only with China oils and I had no issues. I’ve checked CRP a few days after injecting TNE with guaiacol and my CRP was out of range. Same for Primo. Out of range regardless of source.

I source can tell you today that their oils have no EO and that might be true today. But not next week. Or the next batch. Unless you are buying from a trusted Domestic source who tests raws and finished product you will never know the truth unless you test what you buy yourself.

Personally EO is fine for me. I don’t even mind a little guaiacol occasionally. But screw Primo. I’m done with that compound.
fuck primo all my homies take eq
 
I had left rotator cuff surgery and a bicep tenodesis in 2015. The first two months were pretty awful. I had to sleep in a recliner the first couple of weeks. I couldn’t hold anything heavier than a coffee cup in my left hand because of the bicep surgery. It took over 6 months for some of my strength to return. And 12 months to get back to 100% strength and range of motion.

I’ll try anything before I have a second surgery. It’s $700 per shoulder for PRP and around $3K for stem cell. And neither are 100% guaranteed to help much. But I’ll still try when the time comes.
i had a bicep tendon(long head) rotator cuff surgery in 2008, now its all failed and i have re-ruptured/full tears of rotator cuffs and looking into a full shoulder replacement, that was a b of recovery with the bicep tendon being reanchored, now the darn thing is re-reruptured, i will start a shoulder surgery thread after i get final say of what type of surgery procedure im gonna get,, Stayyyyy tunned,, ;)
 
I’ve used oils from another source on this forum for years without a single instance of PIP. Now they’re no longer around, I’ve switched to SSA and every injection site is inflamed.

I’m going to dilute and filter the oils and see if they’re salvageable.

Domestic is an option, however we’re talking about 3-4 x the price which is a difficult pill to swallow after buying a years worth of test from SSA.
 
I’ve used oils from another source on this forum for years without a single instance of PIP. Now they’re no longer around, I’ve switched to SSA and every injection site is inflamed.

I’m going to dilute and filter the oils and see if they’re salvageable.

Domestic is an option, however we’re talking about 3-4 x the price which is a difficult pill to swallow after buying a years worth of test from SSA.
Had bad PIP from Test 400. Wound up throwing it out. Also used Ripex225 some PIP. Never had PIP with test c 250 and primo 100 and 200
 
Understand issues with high mg compounds .. but we’re talking about regular test 250mg.

Both quads and delts are inflamed to the point where I’ve had to stop pinning until my filters and GSO arrive.

The test e is Stromusc and test c is the regular generic unlabelled vials. Both causing this reaction.
 
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Understand issues with high mg compounds .. but we’re talking about regular test 2 250mg.

But quads and delts are inflamed to the point where I’ve had to stop pinning until my filters and GSO arrive.

The test e is Stromusc and test c is the regular generic unlabelled vials. Both causing this reaction.
I passed a friend of mine a couple vials. I have a ton stocked from last year. He told me his quad swelled up and leg went numb every time he pinned his quads with the test C. But continued doing it and said nothing, can't pass up free gear i guess. After limping around on the 3rd pin he threw in the towel and went back to testoviron.
I took the same vial he was getting a reaction from and pinned and didnt even get any pip. Something in there doesn't agree with people.
 
I passed a friend of mine a couple vials. I have a ton stocked from last year. He told me his quad swelled up and leg went numb every time he pinned his quads with the test C. But continued doing it and said nothing, can't pass up free gear i guess. After limping around on the 3rd pin he threw in the towel and went back to testoviron.
I took the same vial he was getting a reaction from and pinned and didnt even get any pip. Something in there doesn't agree with people.
we who tolerate it are the lucky ones.

imagine paying 30$ for a vial of test, could never be me!
 
imagine paying 30$ for a vial of test, could never be me!
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