Mishka's way to MUTANT

cardio is easiest skill to gain.

1 week and you can do 3 hours on bike with a water bottle binge watch power puff girls easily.


also for the testosterone/eq issue, get us your total test + e2 + prolactin.

the solution with a guy like you should be increase testosterone or add caber if its the prolactin.
Running 900mg Boldenone (EQ) with 2,250mg Testosterone Enanthate per week is very likely to result in suppressed estradiol (E2) levels, possibly to an unhealthy degree—even with such a high dose of testosterone.

Evidence from sensitive human bloodwork indicates:

  • At 850mg Boldenone with just 250mg testosterone, users experienced undetectable E2 (<2.5pg/mL) and extremely high estrone (E1) levels, even though normally, 250mg/week testosterone alone would push E2 above the reference range.
  • The effect is so potent that even quadrupling the testosterone to 1,000mg was reported to leave E2 below normal when using high-dose Boldenone.
  • The mechanism is Boldenone’s unique competition at the aromatase enzyme, strongly favoring the formation of E1 over E2, and possibly even suppressing testosterone’s usual conversion to E2.
Key points:

  • 900mg Boldenone is a very high dose and likely to lower or crash E2, even with a massive (2,250mg) test dose.
  • Side effects of very low E2 include: joint pain, mood disorders, erectile dysfunction, impaired recovery, and cardiovascular risks.
  • E1 (estrone) will likely be very elevated, which does not substitute for E2’s physiological benefits.
Conclusion:
Using 900mg Boldenone with 2,250mg Testosterone is very likely to crash your E2, potentially inducing unwanted and severe low-estrogen symptoms, even though such high test alone would normally cause high E2. If you run this combination, close monitoring with sensitive estradiol and estrone bloodwork is critical to avoid health complications.
 


 
is that a typo? or did the AI just quote 850mg eq + 250 test

ofc u will crash from that.


are you taking same ai u did with 2-3 gram test and added eq on top of that?

eq is like primo.

but u have almost double testosterone to eq, i can run my test 1g and primo at 700mg without issues. should be pretty similar to eq
 
is that a typo? or did the AI just quote 850mg eq + 250 test

ofc u will crash from that.

are you taking same ai u did with 2-3 gram test and added eq on top of that?

eq is like primo.

but u have almost double testosterone to eq, i can run my test 1g and primo at 700mg without issues. should be pretty similar to eq
I do take no AI - I only introduce it when I would feel like I am getting a gyno - which I never did up to this point.

Edit: tho I took an AI some times to see if I get problems to see if I feel better or worse... so no AI right now - just Test 2250 Tren 600 EQ 900
 
tho it says here:


"Normally when he (Vigorous Steve) is on a gram of Testosterone per week, he needs to take 12.5 mg Aromasin every day to ward off estrogenic side effects.

When he blasted a gram of Testosterone and a gram of Boldenone per week however, he noticed he didn't need the same amount of Aromasin per week, as the introduction of EQ had actually reduced his estrogenic burden.

Despite adding 1000 mg of another drug that supposedly aromatizes at half the rate of Testosterone, he needed less AI, on double the amount of drugs."

so I assume he still did an AI - less tho - at 1000:1000 and it did not crash him?
 


whats your tt, ft, e2 , prolactin, we need some bloodwork big man , Especially with high doses , have you any recent bloodwork you could share?
 
whats your tt, ft, e2 , prolactin, we need some bloodwork big man , Especially with high doses , have you any recent bloodwork you could share?
hehe, I know it is better to have that.. tho I never do them - very rarely - I did always just fiddle around to see... just afraid I could F it up this time, wifey just has high libido and I don't want it to stop because I cant get / stay hard or something...

In the like 10-12 years I am on "cycle" now (blast n cruise) I did like 3 or 4 bloodwork
 
tho it says here:


"Normally when he (Vigorous Steve) is on a gram of Testosterone per week, he needs to take 12.5 mg Aromasin every day to ward off estrogenic side effects.

When he blasted a gram of Testosterone and a gram of Boldenone per week however, he noticed he didn't need the same amount of Aromasin per week, as the introduction of EQ had actually reduced his estrogenic burden.

Despite adding 1000 mg of another drug that supposedly aromatizes at half the rate of Testosterone, he needed less AI, on double the amount of drugs."

so I assume he still did an AI - less tho - at 1000:1000 and it did not crash him?

This is just a reference point in case you don’t know how much you aromatise and until 4-5 weeks past into this protocol and get your bloodwork done. He ain’t saying this is the same for everyone.

With that many heavy cycles on your back you should already know how you respond to each drug. I find it very, very difficult to crush your e2 with 900 EQ while on 2250mg test. But again, if this happens you could just pull back some EQ and adjust properly. It’s not rocket science brother.
 
This is just a reference point in case you don’t know how much you aromatise and until 4-5 weeks past into this protocol and get your bloodwork done. He ain’t saying this is the same for everyone.

With that many heavy cycles on your back you should already know how you respond to each drug. I find it very, very difficult to crush your e2 with 900 EQ while on 2250mg test. But again, if this happens you could just pull back some EQ and adjust properly. It’s not rocket science brother.
he mentioned he pulled out caber and hes running 600 tren aswell.

although its fucking guessing game without bloodwork

add caber in again

if that dosent get pp up add more testosterone
if that dosent work do bloodwork
 


Whether eq crushes your e2 or not depends on your 17β-HSD isozyme expression.
 
he mentioned he pulled out caber and hes running 600 tren aswell.

although its fucking guessing game without bloodwork

add caber in again

if that dosent get pp up add more testosterone
if that dosent work do bloodwork
ye I did add 0.5 caber in again, first time on Wednesday night - after the "bad" sex. I got it up tho - just did not came - I did originally remove the caber cause I heard it makes you cum faster - so I wanted to have sex for longer and removed it... sadly my wife does not want to have sex for an hour or so :D so I need / want to find some middle ground... but I'd rather cum "faster" than not cumming at all eh... :D
but we also had 31°C in the bedroom, maybe that played a role too and I just gave up cause no cardio, too hot, this and that... but somewhat it just felt less intensive down there. So I thought it has something to do w/ a change I made.

but I will do as you suggested.

I do usually know what I can tolerate good / bad.
e.g. I can't really stay hard on Deca - 1:1 ratio and it just gets limp in the act.
Tren for example I can tolerate v well, did over a gram w/o feeling like living in hell.
also I can do a lot of test w/o having any e2 problems like Gyno....

but yea, I am not sure bout EQ... I did 3g EQ and 1g Test one time - did not work v well.. :( :D
 
Whether eq crushes your e2 or not depends on your 17β-HSD isozyme expression.
Wow, this is an interesting read so far... I just read some key facts... will read that completely tomorrow :)
 
ye I did add 0.5 caber in again, first time on Wednesday night - after the "bad" sex. I got it up tho - just did not came - I did originally remove the caber cause I heard it makes you cum faster - so I wanted to have sex for longer and removed it... sadly my wife does not want to have sex for an hour or so :D so I need / want to find some middle ground... but I'd rather cum "faster" than not cumming at all eh... :D
but we also had 31°C in the bedroom, maybe that played a role too and I just gave up cause no cardio, too hot, this and that... but somewhat it just felt less intensive down there. So I thought it has something to do w/ a change I made.

but I will do as you suggested.

I do usually know what I can tolerate good / bad.
e.g. I can't really stay hard on Deca - 1:1 ratio and it just gets limp in the act.
Tren for example I can tolerate v well, did over a gram w/o feeling like living in hell.
also I can do a lot of test w/o having any e2 problems like Gyno....

but yea, I am not sure bout EQ... I did 3g EQ and 1g Test one time - did not work v well.. :( :D
yeah when i took .5mg caber went from 1 hour pound town sex god to 4 pumps
 
ye I did add 0.5 caber in again, first time on Wednesday night - after the "bad" sex. I got it up tho - just did not came - I did originally remove the caber cause I heard it makes you cum faster - so I wanted to have sex for longer and removed it... sadly my wife does not want to have sex for an hour or so :D so I need / want to find some middle ground... but I'd rather cum "faster" than not cumming at all eh... :D
but we also had 31°C in the bedroom, maybe that played a role too and I just gave up cause no cardio, too hot, this and that... but somewhat it just felt less intensive down there. So I thought it has something to do w/ a change I made.

but I will do as you suggested.

I do usually know what I can tolerate good / bad.
e.g. I can't really stay hard on Deca - 1:1 ratio and it just gets limp in the act.
Tren for example I can tolerate v well, did over a gram w/o feeling like living in hell.
also I can do a lot of test w/o having any e2 problems like Gyno....

but yea, I am not sure bout EQ... I did 3g EQ and 1g Test one time - did not work v well.. :( :D
3g Eq + 1g test .... great pump and fullness but all day you stay in lethargy mode
 
Thank you for asking.

I had a bit of real-life trouble / shit to do - so had no real motivation to go to the gym for like 3-4 weeks now.

Tho I just got my ass up today and got myself T4 and Ivabradin from my doc. I also got Tramal :) hahaha.

By next week I am gonna be back full force.
Made a cardio „routine“ I am going to do 3-4 times per week and will hit the gym hard again. Tho I am still looking for some routine…. I‘d like to do some heavy ass lifting - Powerlifting / Powerbuilding rn…. Got no idea where to start tho. I am too much of a perfectionist to just pick the first program that sounds appealing to me lol.

Tho I am flirting with the GZCLP rn - sounds fun.
May we got any huge Powerlifting / Builder here for some advice on where to start that journey?
I can highly recommend GZCL programs. I ran a mix of his programs, mainly Jacked & Tan 2.0, for years and got very strong. 250kg squat, 200kg bench and 300kg deadlift natty. 90% of that training was just variations on his programs. For peaking for competitions I did GZCL UHF.
 
I can highly recommend GZCL programs. I ran a mix of his programs, mainly Jacked & Tan 2.0, for years and got very strong. 250kg squat, 200kg bench and 300kg deadlift natty. 90% of that training was just variations on his programs. For peaking for competitions I did GZCL UHF.
ah ty sir :)

Yea I am going to start GZCLP I decided yday.

Goals are:
400 Squat
300 Bench
400 DL
200 OHP
 
ah ty sir :)

Yea I am going to start GZCLP I decided yday.

Goals are:
400 Squat
300 Bench
400 DL
200 OHP
I assume you’re already strong so you may hit a wall with the LP program after 5 or 6 months, then I would definitely recommend jacked & tan 2.0 after. The sessions are long but you can progress with that program endlessly.
 
I assume you’re already strong so you may hit a wall with the LP program after 5 or 6 months, then I would definitely recommend jacked & tan 2.0 after. The sessions are long but you can progress with that program endlessly.
ty :)

I've been "strong"-ish - but I lost all of that on my Bodybuilding focused journey somehow.

My PRs - years ago:
3 x 280 Squat
1 x 180 Bench
1 x 270 Deadlift
did not chase a OHP back then - so no idea

Only thing I gotta get nailed is the PL bench technique.... always benched regularly like a Bodybuilder and also I did that "bad" - so I had an ignited biceps sinew for a long time back then.. when I dropped barbell benching completely and turned to bodybuilding / pump / machine workouts it stopped.

What does "long" mean? I googled, it says 60-90 mins(?) I guess u mean more than 60-90 mins, right? :D
 
ty :)

I've been "strong"-ish - but I lost all of that on my Bodybuilding focused journey somehow.

My PRs - years ago:
3 x 280 Squat
1 x 180 Bench
1 x 270 Deadlift
did not chase a OHP back then - so no idea

Only thing I gotta get nailed is the PL bench technique.... always benched regularly like a Bodybuilder and also I did that "bad" - so I had an ignited biceps sinew for a long time back then.. when I dropped barbell benching completely and turned to bodybuilding / pump / machine workouts it stopped.

What does "long" mean? I googled, it says 60-90 mins(?) I guess u mean more than 60-90 mins, right? :D
Those are great numbers! Especially your squat.

Anything over 90 minutes for me is long. I don’t remember how long the LP sessions took, but the squat days particularly for jacked & tan 2.0 were usually 120 minutes. I was younger then though, so was probably spending too long talking and checking out fitchicks. Also I was very unfit.
 
I am unfit as fuck too - will take an hour resting between sets... I hate doing more than 3 to maximum 5 reps of Squat or Deadlift... lol

Just calculated calories:
I'd be at around 6000 cals
750 Carbs
200 Fats
330 Proteins
 
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