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eryximachus said:
My "test" order from China consists of 160 vials. Still $2K. I don't know if it is better to have many small orders or one large order.
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AAS or pep?
They come from different warehouse and are considered separate orders with seperate shipping charges

As always, with any intl order, if it gets stuck at customs, prepare to wait for a month or two before they reship.
 
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eryximachus said:
My "test" order from China consists of 160 vials. Still $2K. I don't know if it is better to have many small orders or one large order.
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I have ordered similar amounts of peptides numerous times without issue.

Ive only ordered 3 or 4 kits of oil at a time, also so far so good
 
eryximachus said:
My "test" order from China consists of 160 vials. Still $2K. I don't know if it is better to have many small orders or one large order.
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16 kits is a modest order. A little bigger than average, Not huge. There's a reason price breaks are offered at qty 50 and 100 kits.

Only two outcomes are possible.

The first, most likely, is that with ~20,000 customers cumulative from various platforms they know what they're doing, and you'll receive your pack, even if it takes longer, perhaps with less clarity then we'd like (it's in their interest to maintain some shipping opsec), or, may even have to be reshipped.

There is no way they could stiff you, and continue to maintain the same amount of business. I see no evidence of that happening to anyone here. If it did, they'd be in here warning future customers every day.

The second is something goes wrong, and before it's rectified they go completely out of business. The same risk faced if you handed a drug dealer a wad of cash and before returning he got hit by a bus, arrested, or picked that moment to quit and skip town forever.

Personally, my first few international orders, years ago, took 45-60 days. I learned patience, because the seller wouldn't respond after payment. But it always arrived.

That early experience taught me to assume 45 days, and if it arrived sooner, it was a pleasant surprise,
 
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Ghoul said:
16 kits is a modest order. A little bigger than average, Not huge. There's a reason price breaks are offered at qty 50 and 100 kits.

Only two outcomes are possible.

The first, most likely, is that with ~20,000 customers cumulative from various platforms they know what they're doing, and you'll receive your pack, even if it takes longer, perhaps with less clarity then we'd like (it's in their interest to maintain some shipping opsec), or, may even have to be reshipped.

There is no way they could stiff you, and continue to maintain the same amount of business. I see no evidence of that happening to anyone here. If it did, they'd be in here warning future customers every day.

The second is something goes wrong, and before it's rectified they go completely out of business. The same risk faced if you handed a drug dealer a wad of cash and before returning he got hit by a bus, arrested, or picked that moment to quit and skip town forever.

Personally, my first few international orders, years ago, took 45-60 days. I learned patience, because the seller wouldn't respond after payment. But it always arrived.

That early experience taught me to assume 45 days, and if it arrived sooner, it was a pleasant surprise,
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I posted before about buying a lot, and was mocked. I've already talked about stocking up and wishing I had noticed your warnings from a year ago.

I don't doubt their competence, but you yourself have made it sound like it is increasingly difficult to import medications. But is it easier with a larger order or a smaller order? Does it not matter? That's my only issue.
 
eryximachus said:
Peptides. Nothing controlled. SS-31, MOTS-c, Glutathione, HCG and the KLOW stack.
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Personally i wouldn't be worried, but just be mentally prepared for long shipping times as with any intl order. Ive received majority of my packs in <2 weeks but there have been people here who have had to wait upwards of 3 months, cause their packages were stuck at customs.
 
eryximachus said:
I posted before about buying a lot, and was mocked. I've already talked about stocking up and wishing I had noticed your warnings from a year ago.

I don't doubt their competence, but you yourself have made it sound like it is increasingly difficult to import medications. But is it easier with a larger order or a smaller order? Does it not matter? That's my only issue.
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The only thing with 1 large order is the potential that it may get intercepted. I think to have them reship it, they would need to send it to a different address. I'm not sure how many times they reship, but probably only once. Breaking the order up will cost more in shipping fees, but may increase the chances of a successful delivery (I would assume). I could be wrong, but larger orders might draw more attention. Also, for each individual order you place, you get a free reship if something happens. From SSAs point of view, they would probably prefer multiple orders. Say you place 5 orders and 4 get to you. They only have to reship 1/5 of the large order and they lose less money
 
eryximachus said:
I posted before about buying a lot, and was mocked. I've already talked about stocking up and wishing I had noticed your warnings from a year ago.

I don't doubt their competence, but you yourself have made it sound like it is increasingly difficult to import medications. But is it easier with a larger order or a smaller order? Does it not matter? That's my only issue.
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I can only speak in generalities. Smaller packs, all other things being equal, are more likely to fly under the radar because, for the effort of manual inspection. a big box of contraband has a much bigger "reward" than a tiny box. But 16 kits is a small box.

The Chinese package consolidation system, where thousands of packs are sent in a container, then once it arrives, relabeled, and shipped like domestic package continues to work very well. If you aren't aware, CBP gets all the customs paperwork for every pack in the container before it arrives. Then they either flag the container for inspection and it's brought to them, or advance clear it (90%+ of the time) and it gets put on a truck and leaves the airport.

Chinese shipping companies still seem to have a much better success rate than poor India Post. Not the 99.99% it had before, but pretty good. Seizures are fairly rare. I assume the Chinese have figured out how to massage the paperwork to avoid red flags. Probobly some other tricks being used. A government memo said something about Chinese companies stuffing a bunch of small packs into one larger box as a way to sneak contraband in, so they're resorting to using some tricks, and customs finds them, occasionally.

If you're looking for a reason to be concerned, timing isn't great for things arriving now. With the rest of the world pausing parcel shipments there's not nearly as much coming in to overwhelm the system as there was last year. So the capacity to inspect represents a higher proportion than before. But that will only last a week or two. Then, at least in the short term there will be a flood of backlogged international packs, and worst case scenario, if you need a reship it'll have much better odds of making it. Besides, their policy is if a reship to the US fails, you're entitled to a refund.

Also as you said nothing is controlled. So you aren't even facing the risk of a love letter.

Odds are well in your favor it'll arrive and all this discussion will be moot,

Going forward though, I don't expect things to get any easier, It's never going back to the way it was when you could look at a year of posts on QSCs thread and not read about a single seizure of something shipped from China.
 
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47Ronin said:
Anyone else getting delays in tracking from China to USA for oils? Going on 8 days now. Rep told me they are backed up because of recent peptide promotion.
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I ordered 10 days ago and still no tracking. I’ve checked in 3 times and was last told 1-2 more days but that was 3 days ago.
 
Smokeythabear said:
I ordered 10 days ago and still no tracking. I’ve checked in 3 times and was last told 1-2 more days but that was 3 days ago.
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Do you have informed delivery?
I ordered early last week, never got my tracking till date, but it turned up on my informed delivery 2 days after placing the order.
 
My rep provided me with tracking information and the website to track it on from the Chinese side and informed delivery covers the US side. It doesnt do much but tell you that they did ship the order and that its sitting in customs. But it does tell you what day the package entered customs and how long it's been there. I think SSA needs to verify that the package was confiscated before sending a reship, so even knowing how long it's been in customs is kind of redundant
 
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