How did the myth start that Primobolan was an AI?

maybe because I feel better, fewer side effects, better appearance? And yet muscle growth is similar.
Do you not understand that every single anabolic steroid was designed first and foremost to minimize the side effects of testosterone?
 
In this point I guess there’s nothing else to discuss. Case closed, you re convinced 100% that primo doesn’t lower estradiol and that won’t change no matter what.

Let us all who do bloodwork and confirm that primo reduces e2 to live in our fantasy world and keep doing what you’re doing.
Show me the evidence.

Explain the science.

Use deductive logic.

People lie all the time about blood work, mostly because they are cheap bastards who don't actually get it done.

I've also posited that perhaps gear is being adulterated with aromatase inhibitors.
 
why in gods name would anyone lie about getting bloodwork done? its cheaper than toilet paper (in my country at least).
Have you been talking to your little AI tinskin clanker friend? Has he convinced you that "they" are putting AIs into our primo?

fyi, a few months ago, someone had some questions about EQ, and while talking to the stongest GPT4 model at the time it repeatedly said that the chemical name for EQ wasnt actually EQ but a designer steriod that was supposed to imitate EQ. AI doesnt know shit, my guy.

The same statement applies to you.
Cogsucker. Promptard.
 
why in gods name would anyone lie about getting bloodwork done? its cheaper than toilet paper (in my country at least).
Have you been talking to your little AI tinskin clanker friend? Has he convinced you that "they" are putting AIs into our primo?

fyi, a few months ago, someone had some questions about EQ, and while talking to the stongest GPT4 model at the time it repeatedly said that the chemical name for EQ wasnt actually EQ but a designer steriod that was supposed to imitate EQ. AI doesnt know shit, my guy.

The same statement applies to you.
Cogsucker. Promptard.
It's interesting to me you have ignored Bill Robert's published work on this very drug.

All the same, the magnitude of your insults indicates you too are subhuman filth. Civilization was not created so that creatures like yourself could simply pollute it with your vitriol.
 
Wait for ghoul to see this or read a lot. They’ll post the science behind it if they haven’t already.
noooo but our dear friend @eryximachus busted out the big words for his last answer to seem less retarded, so it does not matter if someone goes into the science of it because he is a big smart boy and he is oh-so-right in his views, which are in no way shape or form removed from reality in the slightest.

I hope he just got his little feelings hurt after people told him to account for physiologiccal differences in people when talking about AAS and their effects.

It's interesting to me you have ignored Bill Robert's published work on this very drug.
bu- bu - but Bill robert!1!! dont care, read some of his stuff, not very impressed by it. also, he advertises subpar protocols (cycles without a test base, seriously????) seems stupid to me.
 
Are you sure? Primobolan is an old school steroid.

Seems you came here just to stir shit up and talk down on people. Maybe your primo has crashed your estrogen, making you so moody?

Yes, I am sure because I have been using steroids for 20 years. Primobolan was simply not available reliably until about that time. This is something Bill Roberts also talks about in the article that I cited, which everyone here apparently is too lazy to read.
 
noooo but our dear friend @eryximachus busted out the big words for his last answer to seem less retarded, so it does not matter if someone goes into the science of it because he is a big smart boy and he is oh-so-right in his views, which are in no way shape or form removed from reality in the slightest.

I hope he just got his little feelings hurt after people told him to account for physiologiccal differences in people when talking about AAS and their effects.


bu- bu - but Bill robert!1!! dont care, read some of his stuff, not very impressed by it. also, he advertises subpar protocols (cycles without a test base, seriously????) seems stupid to me.
You need to see a psychiatrist. While your rage is undoubtedly due to substances you are taking, there are medications that can help you rejoin society.

This uncivilized behavior simply doesn't work.

So far as Bill Roberts - you are again obviously a young fuck. The guy was instrumental in making this website what it is today and the owner is a personal friend of him. You're basically shitting on the guy, and now you're claiming what he has written is bullshit.

because bro science.

You need help. You're not right in the head.
 
Show me the evidence.

Explain the science.

Use deductive logic.

People lie all the time about blood work, mostly because they are cheap bastards who don't actually get it done.

I've also posited that perhaps gear is being adulterated with aromatase inhibitors.
There is alot of evidence. I have posted blood work here before. Trying to find the original link.

I went full retard first cycle and got blood work constantly wondering why my dick was broken.



Where is your blood work dude?
 
There is alot of evidence. I have posted blood work here before. Trying to find the original link.

I went full retard first cycle and got blood work constantly wondering why my dick was broken.



Where is your blood work dude?
My bloodwork is at my TRT clinic. I would happily get it done if it would help people here. But given the quantity of insults I have received, I'm not so sure.

So far as that thread. What the fuck is this protocol

Who in their right mind would take estrogen pills?

So we're supposed to believe this guy is taking all this shit, including estrogen pills, AND using testosterone AND using HCG - and his e2 is LOW? Because of primo?

Taking letrozole wouldn't even do that. It's not rational.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
extra supplies on hand is probably overkill but I like an "oh shit stash"
AAS
10x vials of Test C
10x vials of Primo E
8x 100 ui kits of HGH
300x 10mg of Var.(on hold)

Ancillaries(as needed)
Aromasin
E2 pills(Using)
Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
Zetia(using)
HCTZ
Telmisartan.

Supps
Creatine 5g
Multi
DHEA 25mg
pregnenalone 20mg
fish oil
Vit D3 10k units
Magnesium
Taurine
 
My bloodwork is at my TRT clinic. I would happily get it done if it would help people here. But given the quantity of insults I have received, I'm not so sure.

So far as that thread. What the fuck is this protocol

Who in their right mind would take estrogen pills?

So we're supposed to believe this guy is taking all this shit, including estrogen pills, AND using testosterone AND using HCG - and his e2 is LOW? Because of primo?

Taking letrozole wouldn't even do that. It's not rational.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
extra supplies on hand is probably overkill but I like an "oh shit stash"
AAS
10x vials of Test C
10x vials of Primo E
8x 100 ui kits of HGH
300x 10mg of Var.(on hold)

Ancillaries(as needed)
Aromasin
E2 pills(Using)
Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
Zetia(using)
HCTZ
Telmisartan.

Supps
Creatine 5g
Multi
DHEA 25mg
pregnenalone 20mg
fish oil
Vit D3 10k units
Magnesium
Taurine
i said I went full retard didnt I? it was my first cycle

Why dont you stick to the facts

So you have no data of your own on hand but want to talk about science and data collection
 
i said I went full retard didnt I? it was my first cycle

Why dont you stick to the facts

So you have no data of your own on hand but want to talk about science and data collection
I've run Primobolan for 4-6 months a year for the past 11 years. I've used a TRT clinic for most of that time, and my numbers have always been in range.

I've been using Primo since June along with TRT. I will happily go to Privatemdlabs or something to get my numbers. But again, I doubt that will carry much weight here.
 
And it's important to not - I've used Primo exactly as Bill Roberts says you should. A
anything lower than 39 is in range....

I realized I cannot have an educated debate with you based off of this response.
Your estrogen in that measure is fine. It is not "crashed".
 
I think what you are trying to claim is that the only reason the number is in range is because of primo. But that is not accurate.
 
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