MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund

[readalot]

Did you pay to gcms the raws?
I know he does that as a quick way to ID the compound.

Here is what the group paid for...

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Post in thread 'MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund'

Aug 20, 2025

Spoiler: Itemized List

Itemized list

3 Vials TRA (150) and raw sample (50) plus shipping (50) plus time/labor(100) = 350 USD paid (Kain only wanted 50. Hell no! Helluva member.)

GCMS = 170 USD

[HPLC + GCMS] × 3 = 720 USD

Crypto conversion fee = 20 USD (whoa!) paid

Grand Total = 1260 USD

UPDATED

Itemized List (out of pocket)

Raw materials made and shipped:
3 Vials and raw sample plus shipping plus time/labor = 350 USD paid

Janoshik Testing:
1x GCMS screening x 170 USD MINUS...

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[Photon]

Yes was part of the group testing project detailed above.

I wonder what that 2percent could be. Perhaps moisturise?

 

[readalot]

I wonder what that 2percent could be. Perhaps moisturise?

We dont know there is 2% other via HPLC. That is the way Jano reports unless you ask for actual calculated purity %. Hence I asked kain for raw data. 98%+ does not mean 98%.

Jano adds the confidence interval in the reporting unless you specifically ask him not to.

Hence we need raw data and HPLC chromatogram.

 

[Photon]

We dont know there is 2% other via HPLC. That is the way Jano reports unless you ask for actual calculated purity %. Hence I asked kain for raw data. 98%+ does not mean 98%.

Jano adds the confidence interval in the reporting unless you specifically ask him not to.

Hence we need raw data and HPLC chromatogram.

I'm going to send in some halo raws soon for testing. What would be a better way to ask for the results? Without the c.i? Asking for actual calculated purity?

 

[readalot]

I'm going to send in some halo raws soon for testing. What would be a better way to ask for the results? Without the c.i? Asking for actual calculated purity?

You can get raw data for 5 bucks extra. Yes, ask for xx.xx% format on the reporting. Also he can provide API mg via HPLC and sample weight. Divide former by latter to confirm reported value.

 

[readalot]

I'm going to send in some halo raws soon for testing. What would be a better way to ask for the results? Without the c.i? Asking for actual calculated purity?

From Jano's details page...

https://www.janoshik.com/details/

3. Blind common anabolic steroid and aromatase inhibitors screening - raws (purity testing):
1. Margin of error: 5%
2. Compounds quantified:
letrozole

3. Detection limit cutoff: 50%.
4. Result format: % [98%+, 96%+ or % value such as 94.15%] ( click for report format example )
5. Average turnaround time: 96 hours. Guaranteed turnaround time: 21 days.
6. Shipping conditions:
a) Put at least 200 mg of the raw powder (maximum 2000 mg) into

 

[readalot]

@kain 's vials come back as 104.25 mg/ml TRA via HPLC. Well done Sir.

This is the value for low color control.

HPLC result for low color vial (control):



Link:

Janoshik Analytical

Raw data file has the GCMS results for this vial.

 

[readalot]

See raw data file for GCMS results -- TRA raw API used in this project. I have already posted TIC area table above a few posts.

Janoshik Analytical

 

[readalot]

Update: the other two vials have been heated to produce two darker colors.

Awaiting pics and test results (HPLC and GCMS).

 

[readalot]

Updated pics, before and after.

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Photon]

Updated pics, before and after.

Janoshik Analytical

Reckon they are dark enough?

 

[readalot]

Reckon they are dark enough?

I had no control over that. Wait till you see the results and times/temps.

 

[Photon]

I had no control over that. Wait till you see the results and times/temps.

 

[readalot]

Sample b:

Janoshik Analytical

Sample c:

Janoshik Analytical

Will post images when I have time. This should be a fun discussion.

Somes vendors are beating the living hell out of their oils or raws are much darker than these.

Will post the HPLC raw data for this raw as well. Actually tested over 100% purity (one has to account for method error) by HPLC (thanks for getting that @kain). Very pure raw.

 

[Ateam2023]

Sample b:

Janoshik Analytical

Sample c:

Janoshik Analytical

Will post images when I have time. This should be a fun discussion.

Somes vendors are beating the living hell out of their oils or raws are much darker than these.

Will post the HPLC raw data for this raw as well. Actually tested over 100% purity (one has to account for method error) by HPLC (thanks for getting that @kain). Very pure raw.

I see alot if other vendors either stepping up there game, ( Theres a pretty high bar ALREADY set) or losing ALOT of business, because like it or not people like tren, and a majority of the people can tolerate ,some are gifted and can tolerate high doses @fu" mf's haha , but this is a big step for Tren users/non users and the community as a whole, if nothing else the "ton of support" for this testing project was really a positive experience for all involved, and all different levels of understanding moving forward. Tl;DR Have a Great Day Everyone!

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

HPLC result for low color vial (control):

View attachment 344689

Link:

Janoshik Analytical

Raw data file has the GCMS results for this vial.

@kain

Is this the cloudy tren ace from QSC?

 

[Ateam2023]

Sample b:

Janoshik Analytical

Sample c:

Janoshik Analytical

Will post images when I have time. This should be a fun discussion.

Somes vendors are beating the living hell out of their oils or raws are much darker than these.

Will post the HPLC raw data for this raw as well. Actually tested over 100% purity (one has to account for method error) by HPLC (thanks for getting that @kain). Very pure raw.

Ok the pictures look same ? Or am i colored blind and there is a difference?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Ok the pictures look same ? Or am i colored blind and there is a difference?

The GCMS looks the same but in terms of lightness (color): a > b > c

 

[Photon]

The GCMS looks the same but in terms of lightness (color): a > b > c

I'm also wondering also to interpret the GCMS, doesn't deviate much.
I recently received some dark TRE400, makes me wonder how they are cooking it..

 

[Ateam2023]

The GCMS looks the same but in terms of lightness (color): a > b > c

Thanks for stating the obvious,