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[Big_Hurt35]

Is that 1ml of that BAC in the vial photo you posted?

No…..10ml

 

[Big_Hurt35]

IF you leave the solution in the Freig. for a few days, the entire thing will dissolve.

Everything stays refrigerated so I’m not sure what else I could do on that front.

 

[Sera]

No…..10ml

He means how much did you put into the gh vial

 

[Big_Hurt35]

He means how much did you put into the gh vial

1.8ml

 

[dick_starbuck]

1.8ml

Realistically you should be using 3cc when reconstituting 36+iu vials.

 

[Mike-Larry]

Realistically you should be using 3cc when reconstituting 36+iu vials.

Depends if you want to inject a lot of water every day. 2ml (assuming it’s 40IU) would work out to be 2IU per 0.1ml. That is perfect for me.

 

[Big_Hurt35]

Realistically you should be using

Realistically you should be using 3cc when reconstituting 36+iu vials.

If everyone agrees this will fix the clarity problem and get rid of the fog and the floaters. I will definitely try it.

 

[Ghoul]

If everyone agrees this will fix the clarity problem and get rid of the fog and the floaters. I will definitely try it.

While there's no guarantee of anything, the higher the concentration the more likely proteins are to aggregate. It's well established as one of the primary factors in aggregation.

Most of the time aggregation isn't even visible, but still decreases the amount of bioactive peptide/rhgh, so it's a good practice whether you see floaters or not.

I'd try to stay below 15iu/ml. concentration.

Aggregates are either soluble or insoluble. The former may reverse after adding more water, the latter are permanent and would have to be filtered out to remove.

 

[sionnach]

If everyone agrees this will fix the clarity problem and get rid of the fog and the floaters. I will definitely try it.

I couldn't find hard data on maximum possible concentration. AI seems to think

a commonly cited and stable concentration for HGH in bacteriostatic water is around 5mg/ml. However, higher concentrations may be achievable depending on the specific formulation and excipients

but that seems way fucking low.

 

[Ghoul]

I couldn't find hard data on maximum possible concentration. AI seems to think

but that seems way fucking low.

15iu/ml and lower is pretty typical in basic rHGH formulations.

Above that and conditions like PH need to be perfect (our PH is all over the place depending on water), and anti-aggregation excipients like polysorbate 20 or poloaxmer 188 are commonly used.

Pharma's not adding those stabilizing ingredients (which lower purity btw) for no reason.

 

[joeblow543212]

While there's no guarantee of anything, the higher the concentration the more likely proteins are to aggregate. It's well established as one of the primary factors in aggregation.

Most of the time aggregation isn't even visible, but still decreases the amount of bioactive peptide/rhgh, so it's a good practice whether you see floaters or not.

I'd try to stay below 15iu/ml. concentration.

Aggregates are either soluble or insoluble. The former may reverse after adding more water, the latter are permanent and would have to be filtered out to remove.

Man I have alot to learn...I've been using 10mg reta thus far. Which i reconstituted with 1ml of bac water, I wasn't planning to increase the bac water for stronger concentration with less bac water but maybe I should be using more? Whats max bac water one can typically get in a peptide vial? I have 30mg reta enroute. Im sure you can get 2ml, can you squeeze 3ml in?

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Man I have alot to learn...I've been using 10mg reta thus far. Which i reconstituted with 1ml of bac water, I wasn't planning to increase the bac water for stronger concentration with less bac water but maybe I should be using more? Whats max bac water one can typically get in a peptide vial? I have 30mg reta enroute. Im sure you can get 2ml, can you squeeze 3ml in?

You can get 3.5ml in the vials, but 1ml is perfectly fine for 10mg Reta

 

[sionnach]

Man I have alot to learn...I've been using 10mg reta thus far. Which i reconstituted with 1ml of bac water, I wasn't planning to increase the bac water for stronger concentration with less bac water but maybe I should be using more? Whats max bac water one can typically get in a peptide vial? I have 30mg reta enroute. Im sure you can get 2ml, can you squeeze 3ml in?

We were specifically talking HGH, just fyi.

 

[BigBoy0689]

Any experience with the GH 10 IU? Thanks

 

[dick_starbuck]

Any experience with the GH 10 IU? Thanks

Yeah, its great.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Depends if you want to inject a lot of water every day. 2ml (assuming it’s 40IU) would work out to be 2IU per 0.1ml. That is perfect for me.

There is no downside to "injecting alot of water". There is however a downside to using too little water and causing unnecessary cloudiness which MAY be aggregation. Thats Ghouls theory anyway. However, it does make sense. I use 3cc and mine were clear af.

 

[Ghoul]

Man I have alot to learn...I've been using 10mg reta thus far. Which i reconstituted with 1ml of bac water, I wasn't planning to increase the bac water for stronger concentration with less bac water but maybe I should be using more? Whats max bac water one can typically get in a peptide vial? I have 30mg reta enroute. Im sure you can get 2ml, can you squeeze 3ml in?

Every protein is different in terms of aggregation. The simplest way to establish the highest concentration that's reasonable for a particular compound, if it's a copy of a pharma product, is to refer to what volume pharma uses. It's prudent to use a lower concentration because pharma is carefully controlling all the factors that could cause it in a way UGL doesn't, but at least it provides a starting point.

Eli Lily uses .5ml for all Reta doses up to 12mg.

So 1ml for 10mg is fine,

It's still a good idea to aim for .5ml in volume for the dose you intend to use, not to minimize aggregation (anything less concentrated than 12mg in .5ml will do that), but to maintain the pharmacokinetics (speed of absorption) the drug's developers intended.

Less or more than .5ml per dose will change the timing, so getting as close as you can to .5ml per dose is ideal.

 

[dinfar1337]

If everyone agrees this will fix the clarity problem and get rid of the fog and the floaters. I will definitely try it.

i do 40 mg in 1ml

no problems.

you are a retard who have comprimised water or are cumming into your vial when we're not looking.

 

[AlexDavis43]

i do 40 mg in 1ml

no problems

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[dinfar1337]

And yet Jano testing shows otherwise..your oils have additional stuff that are not present in other vendor oils...Elaidic acid, which is found in vegetable oils..

wtf

why did i first read this now?

and why is no one taking this seriously?

injecting elaidic acid kills???? its fatally dangerous wtf

can you please post where you have that @Photon

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/elaidic-acid

just eating this stuff causes cancer and cardiovascular issues, you're telling me we gonna bypass digestion and inject this into ourselves? it causes fat embolism > potential death

it can causes necrosis aswell when injected