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That's impressive, I didn't know it's been proven to be that resilient, thank you for that information. I kept hearing 2 years in the fridge. You wouldn't happen to know if any of the more common peptides are more susceptible to degradation over time? I could use the insulated cases and freeze those instead.
I don't have any test on very old peptides of any other kind but we ran a sous vide test on lyophilized peptides of different kind for 30 days and the results were impressive.

But many other peptides are not so susceptible as much as GH could be from freezing and thawing and stuff like that
Tirz especially
 
I don't have any test on very old peptides of any other kind but we ran a sous vide test on lyophilized peptides of different kind for 30 days and the results were impressive.

But many other peptides are not so susceptible as much as GH could be from freezing and thawing and stuff like that
Tirz especially

Any idea about Reta?
 
I don't have any test on very old peptides of any other kind but we ran a sous vide test on lyophilized peptides of different kind for 30 days and the results were impressive.

But many other peptides are not so susceptible as much as GH could be from freezing and thawing and stuff like that
Tirz especially
To add, Jano had a recent interview discussing the viability of peptides at room temp, fridge, and freezer. They last a long time. Resilient things.
 
To add, Jano had a recent interview discussing the viability of peptides at room temp, fridge, and freezer. They last a long time. Resilient things.
I have experience with HGH and peptides left at room temp for months.

The results were as expected. I can t say whether it was degraded or weaker, but i know for sure it did what it was supposed to do...

Make of that what you will, by just my 2ps worth.
 
To add, Jano had a recent interview discussing the viability of peptides at room temp, fridge, and freezer. They last a long time. Resilient things.

You gotta think saying that would be bad for business

The alternative being, "we don't know, there's a lot of variability, better get your peptides tested!"

Either he's a really honest guy or not a great business man
 
You gotta think saying that would be bad for business

The alternative being, "we don't know, there's a lot of variability, better get your peptides tested!"

Either he's a really honest guy or not a great business man

The most remarkable part is the way a single chemical analyst with limited equipment has single handedly managed to overturn half a century's body of work by PhD-level pharmaceutical scientists and professors who run labs, publish in top journals, and push the boundaries of what is known about protein stability. The experts who sit at the top of the science hierarchy in their field, generate new knowledge, and influence how drugs get developed and regulated worldwide.

These idiots have it all wrong. Nothing degrades peptides. Not oxygen. Not room temperature. Not agitation.
 
The most remarkable part is the way a single chemical analyst with limited equipment has single handedly managed to overturn half a century's body of work by PhD-level pharmaceutical scientists and professors who run labs, publish in top journals, and push the boundaries of what is known about protein stability. The experts who sit at the top of the science hierarchy in their field, generate new knowledge, and influence how drugs get developed and regulated worldwide.

These idiots have it all wrong. Nothing degrades peptides. Not oxygen. Not room temperature. Not agitation.
And you are? Their representative? A well known peptide expert that holds numerous degrees in biosciences? A chemical analyst at least?

No, you are a ChatGPT bozo that thinks that because a dozen meso users praising him for his copy paste answers, he became THE authority on every known meso debate that involves peptides and gear, although you have nearly ZERO first hand experience with them.

Peptides degrade, but not in 1 millisecond after reconstitution. They aggregate, but not is such degree to cause problems to their user.

You just blow things out of proportion, in order to make a scene and draw attention.

You should be treated like a nuisance that you are.
 
And you are? Their representative? A well known peptide expert that holds numerous degrees in biosciences? A chemical analyst at least?

No, you are a ChatGPT bozo that thinks that because a dozen meso users praising him for his copy paste answers, he became THE authority on every known meso debate that involves peptides and gear, although you have nearly ZERO first hand experience with them.

Peptides degrade, but not in 1 millisecond after reconstitution. They aggregate, but not is such degree to cause problems to their user.

You just blow things out of proportion, in order to make a scene and draw attention.

You should be treated like a nuisance that you are.

I'm someone who can give proper weight to a source of information, the precautions dedicated experts in the field of pharma and regulators advocate to mitigate risks, recognizing the massive amounts of time and money they spend to so lends more credibility to what they warn about, than what washed up knuckle draggers dismiss to rationalize what's convenient for them.

I'm someone who understands harms aren't only measured by what occurs moments after an injection, unlike you, and they can take years or decades for damage to become apparent. I understand that a basic premise of risk management in medicine is recognizing you don't have to be able to quantify hazards to justify taking steps to minimize them.

Unlike you, I have a reason to preserve my health for the long term, and not subconsciously embrace recklessness as a form slow suicide to escape a miserable, unaccomplished life.

The term "aggregate" never once appeared in a post from you until I brought it up. So while you can dismiss what I have to say as "Google", more recently like the follower you are "ChatGPT", and decades ago it would've been "book learnin", it's no surprise you can't recognize what your Tren atrophied brain is incapable of, intellectual curiosity and a passion for knowledge.

You represent the last gasp of bitter neanderthals here who were never on board with any real concept of harm reduction. You're headed to an early grave, and any discussion of progress toward greater harm reduction makes you angry, reminders that the stupid practices putting you on that sad path were, but for a low IQ and 3rd world education, entirely avoidable.
 
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I'm someone who can give proper weight to a source of information, the precautions dedicated experts in the field of pharma and regulators advocate to mitigate risks, recognizing the massive amounts of time and money they spend to so lends more credibility to what they warn about, than what washed up knuckle draggers dismiss to rationalize what's convenient for them.

I'm someone who understands harms aren't only measured by what occurs moments after an injection, unlike you, and they can take years or decades for damage to become apparent. I understand that a basic premise of risk management in medicine is recognizing you don't have to be able to quantify hazards to justify taking steps to minimize them.

Unlike you, I have a reason to preserve my health for the long term, and not subconsciously embrace recklessness as a form slow suicide to escape a miserable, unaccomplished life.

The term "aggregate" never once appeared in a post from you until I brought it up. So while you can dismiss what I have to say as "Google", more recently like the follower you are "ChatGPT", and decades ago it would've been "book learnin", it's no surprise you can't recognize what your Tren atrophied brain is incapable of, intellectual curiosity and a passion for knowledge.

You represent the last gasp of bitter neanderthals here who were never on board with any real concept of harm reduction. You're headed to an early grave, and any discussion of progress toward greater harm reduction makes you angry, reminders that the stupid practices putting you on that sad path were, but for a low IQ and 3rd world education, entirely avoidable.
TL;DR

You are an attention whore that uses AI to overcompensate your lack of knowledge through experience and you try to belittle others because they call out your BS.

Got it chump.
 
This forum never fails to amaze me. People will openly discuss running enough “supplements” to make a lab rat faint — and nobody bats an eye. That’s totally fine, bros supporting bros.

But mention using ChatGPT or any AI tool and suddenly it’s like you’ve committed the ultimate sin:

It’s funny how risking your health is cool… but risking Chatgpt opinion on oatmeal is a step too far.
 

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