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How to use HGH and mounjaro without both conflicting with each other
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Ateam2023
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well there's plenty of information, try using the search function, it does work
Ghoul
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After 4 weeks at any given GLP dose you've reached stable plasma levels so timing doesn't mean much. There's no need to do anything special, Avoid injecting them in the same area if doing them at the same time would be reasonable, like using opposite sides of the body, but other than that there's nothing you need to do to make them work better together.
BigDadd7
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Why do you think they conflict?
Hammerhead78
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Wouldn’t the mounjaro help to regulate your A1c working to help with sides of gh i
Banana Joe
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Whatever, just pin the god damn GH.
At the assumed doses it will not matter at all, if your diet is on point. Heck, my diet is shit half of the time, I am not on GLP1s, and I never have any blood sugar issues.
The key is working out, like someone that loves working out.
You GLP1-people need a bit more bravado, this is a steroid board, not a wellness forum.
From what I’ve read so far is that when used together they seem to want to dominate each other when used together so in that battle after its finished which ever one wins they would have lowered the strength of the other and in the process the dosage that they both started out as is decreased. I use novolog but I will inject it after eating my last meal and since it will become inactive in 3-5 hrs around the same time it takes to digest food then I will inject the hgh. I do it that way since I believe that the nutrients from the food is now absorbed in the cells giving the hgh the optimum time for it to Dow its work of growth and recovery. That’s why I asked for help from experienced users here instead of spending and inordinate amount of time and not knowing what misinformation I would encounter due to my ignorance on the subject of slow acting insulin. BTW I AM A DIABETIC so please refrain from telling me how dangerous insulin is when used incorrectly.
Hammerhead78
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I would assume you like tren pretty good you trigger pretty easy and I believe this forum is harm reduction of steroid use
Thanx champ for the enlightenment that made me feel better
Guess you don’t know the significance of assume. BTW I only use trt dose of 100mg Test Cyp and thought that adding hgh would make the total anabolic effect greater than the sum of the two compounds by not needing to bump up the steroid use. I don’t want to look like the average bodybuilder but creating a more aesthetic look by significantly reducing my overall body fat and adding more muscle to compensate for the loss of the fat. This way I retain my size looking better.
BigDadd7
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Unless you're planning to go full retard and jump into 10-12 iu of growth, you're not going to have an issue. Start at 2iu for three weeks, track your sugar, and go from there.
Hammerhead78
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Hammerhead78
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I was replying to Banana Joe guess you don’t know the significance of reading all information
Forget to mention that I’ve been a member here quite a long time and from what I KNOW and not assuming the site is somewhere we get together to share our experiences of how to use AAS responsibly and not prejudging each other but giving comfort to others so we don’t feel bad about our lack of AAS knowledge. Oh lastly please don’t contribute to any further posts I may have since I’m not a fan of being ridiculed.
Y reply to someone else? I was the one requesting help in MY THREAD.
Banana Joe
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If I trigger pretty easy might be up for debate, but Tren ain't got nothing to do with that. And I speak from experience, how about you?
If you didn't catch my drift, what I wrote is that at "Mounjaro-doses" of GH (e.g. 2iu) there is not even a point to worry about checking blood sugar. And I am not even hyperbolic here, at least for the most ppl, especially if already on a GLP1.
Part of that harm reduction is learning when to shut up and listen. I don't owe it to any of the both of you, to sugar coat my message. You guys have both obviously ZERO experience, and just repeat what you heard or read.
And you think you read ALL the information, seriously? After asking the question to which I had replied to initially?
You will not believe me, but that wall of text alone is proof of I what I just tried to convey to you, because....
...don't worry, looking like a body builder does NOT happen by accident.
Well, that is one way to take my reply.
Stop whining FFS, this is not YOUR thread. You just proved my point with all your messages after mine.
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Thank you sir, I appreciate your time and your patience
Ghoul
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No problem, I just happened to have to establish how much variation there was in blood concentration levels from peak to trough of Tirz (for another conversation I was having about multi vs single dosing per week).
FYI. Once 4 doses are used, maximum stability is reached, and just before the next weekly injection it hits the lowest point of 63%. From a glucose control standpoint, it's a clinically insignificant difference from the peak of 100%. In other words, as long you stay on that weekly dose, injecting on the same day, Mounjaro will never drop below 63% max concentration in your blood.
In a sense, GLPs are a compound that turn your existing beta cells into the ultimate, most responsive insulin pump, and a perfect complement for rHGH.
Also, at 4iu and below, the range used for long term GH deficiency patients, any new insulin resistance is usually "Pseudo insulin resistance" caused by free fatty acid liberation and easily reversed. Muscle prefers FFAs as fuel so glucose uptake is impaired. As body fat is reduced, than becomes less of an issue.
Above 3-4iu, over long periods of time, the risk of real insulin resistance grows from other GH related mechanisms not related to free fatty acids.
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BlackVeil
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Never read anything about glps and hgh conflicting.
When I cut from 275 ish to 195, my ending max dose of tirz was 25mg/wk and 20iu hgh ED.
Every thing I read, and personally saw, says they work amazing together.
So much so I am going to try reta, cruising on 5 or so mg of reta and 5iu hgh along side my TRT.
When I cut from 275 ish to 195, my ending max dose of tirz was 25mg/wk and 20iu hgh ED.
Every thing I read, and personally saw, says they work amazing together.
So much so I am going to try reta, cruising on 5 or so mg of reta and 5iu hgh along side my TRT.
BigDadd7
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Geezus krist. You must have been a fat boy!
