Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[readalot]

Not read that before so thanks for the info but after a scan not sure I broke any rules. And btw meso is not a source forum? It is

Just thought you may find it interesting.

 

[Jpxxx]

Einstein, you’re crying about refunds on the grey market like you had to suck cocks in the clink just to scrape together those ten vials of tren you lost. I mildly sympathize (seriously, I do), but explain in plain words to 'the tard' how crying about it fixes anything? This game hasn’t changed in decades: sources get raided, customers lose. We took the gamble, now we swallow the loss. Want guarantees? Stop blasting and go buy some creatine instead, because the grey market doesn’t owe any of us shit. Keep bawling and you’ll just chase away every decent source left. If dealers can’t rebuild, every source is gone for good, they’re the only bridge from the labs to the rest of us. I don’t deal, never have, never will, but even at my age I blast more gear than a racehorse and whether it costs me twenty grand or two hundred matters a hell of a lot more to me than some youngster crying over his lost lunch money, if you lost severely more than that, then perhaps tracy should try to see if he can make an exception to the few of you that got hit that hard I think. but in the end either back the comeback of safe, cheap supply or take your beating like an adult.

PS: This is not uniquely for Tracy btw I'm not a fanboy of anyone particular, I would say the same for SSA, XCE or Misha or whoever.

If youre not a fan boy then stop bending over backwards for him

 

[Tkjo]

Tracy the fucking beggar who once didn't give a shit about customers and told them to eat dogshit alone, now doing everything in his power to beg for your hard earned money. The post is so deceptive it's unbelieveable.

He's trying to fear monger people into buying up the remaining of his dusty ass stock. We all damn well know prices will never go back to 65$ for a kit of test e, but he makes it sound like if you help him back up, he "owes" you this favor.

This recent message is the queue to stop buying from QSC. Risk getting exit scammed or “All oils out of stock. If you paid, please wait. I promise I’ll be back and honor all past orders.” extremely high. He said it himself, there isn’t any foreseeable stock coming to the domestic warehouse.

 

[readalot]

Can someone recommend a supplier that currently offers a similar price-to-performance ratio as QSC used to have? — maybe even with better delivery / shipping terms?

What are you looking for?

 

[keengkong]

Are you just a little tarded?

I'm not retarded. I'm just special.

 

[bjjgear]

Is this the same fellow I used to communicate with here?

Yep. We can agree on 99% of things and disagree here

 

[bjjgear]

And yet here you are discussing them. Start swallowing

Get the fuck out of my replies you redneck

 

[BamaCrazy]

Get the fuck out of my replies you redneck

 

[AlmightyAlpha]

Qsc is probably the first and last source that provides information about the current situation happening over there....we all got fucked. Some of us 2 grand...some 20 grand. It happens. But we'll see what happens in the coming year which I think will be a better horizon for gear heads because there is no way they're not turning labs again soon. Too much money to be made for them.

 

[Ghoul]

Qsc is probably the first and last source that provides information about the current situation happening over there....we all got fucked. Some of us 2 grand...some 20 grand. It happens. But we'll see what happens in the coming year which I think will be a better horizon for gear heads because there is no way they're not turning labs again soon. Too much money to be made for them.

Then why wait another year? They don't want to make money now? What's going to be different? Whatever the Chinese govt did to implement the crackdown was extremely effective and put the fear of god into raws manufacturers.

 

[Heavy Iron]

Then why wait another year? They don't want to make money now? What's going to be different? Whatever the Chinese govt did to implement the crackdown was extremely effective and put the fear of god into raws manufacturers.

Pretty sure he is just saying we will see how this plays out in the near future in China. Not dissimilar how certain raws would be stopped in production due to sanctions on pollution and then lifted again time and time again. Generally because they don't give a shit.

But this is definitely different.

My theory is the "comeback" is the people in their respective domestic areas decided let's sell all this shit off because we haven't heard shit because everyone is locked up in China. Or perhaps they're starting their own thing with the funds from remaining stock. The switching of warehouses could also be QSC is actually starting a whole new process and things might get going again. And they're waiting for new routes to be put in place. Who tf knows.

Im sure they want to make money now. I just don't think they can at all. Unless someone robs a few freight containers of raw materials intended for the legit manufacturers. I don't see it happening yet.

 

[SkeetSlambone]

Then why wait another year? They don't want to make money now? What's going to be different? Whatever the Chinese govt did to implement the crackdown was extremely effective and put the fear of god into raws manufacturers.

Ghoul, you seem to have a pretty broad based knowledge set...when, if ever don't think the details of the QSC or any other crackdown will leak out?

I'm genuinely interested in the details. Maybe it's just morbid curiosity, but it interests me.

 

[Ghoul]

Ghoul, you seem to have a pretty broad based knowledge set...when, if ever don't think the details of the QSC or any other crackdown will leak out?

I'm genuinely interested in the details. Maybe it's just morbid curiosity, but it interests me.

I can go completely psycho with research when something catches my interest (you may have noticed lol), but China is a fucking black hole when it comes to internal law enforcement, and it's not for lack of trying. I have tools that translate Chinese news and searches it, but there's been nothing on the raws crackdown, or vendors.

The closest news on these topics concerned a crackdown on local pharmacies illegally selling certain meds without prescriptions (within China), with most just issued fines, and big offenders "referred" to "The People's" criminal prosecutors.

I've also looked at statements from all the government agencies that could be involved, etc, and absolutely nothing regarding the Raws situation or QSC.

So the answer is, unless someone ties Tracy down and injects truth serum, we'll probably never get the full story.

It's possible China doesn't want to air it's drug precursor "dirty laundry" in a way visible to its foreign critics like the US, which could be used against China.

 

[dinfar1337]

I can go completely psycho with research when something catches my interest

same bro, i found absolute 0 useful info before the pangea or whatever its called operation came out.

i was not as hardcore as u translating chinese stuff tho lmao

 

[readalot]

Yep. We can agree on 99% of things and disagree here

 

[readalot]

I can go completely psycho with research when something catches my interest (you may have noticed lol), but China is a fucking black hole when it comes to internal law enforcement, and it's not for lack of trying. I have tools that translate Chinese news and searches it, but there's been nothing on the raws crackdown, or vendors.

The closest news on these topics concerned a crackdown on local pharmacies illegally selling certain meds without prescriptions (within China), with most just issued fines, and big offenders "referred" to "The People's" criminal prosecutors.

I've also looked at statements from all the government agencies that could be involved, etc, and absolutely nothing regarding the Raws situation or QSC.

So the answer is, unless someone ties Tracy down and injects truth serum, we'll probably never get the full story.

It's possible China doesn't want to air it's drug precursor "dirty laundry" in a way visible to its foreign critics like the US, which could be used against China.

There is nothing to be found. Best you can get is the heresay of others on the ground some of which i shared here (reliable source).

 

[BP_6]

I used to think China was just a standard communist country. However it seems they are more of a hybrid capitalist/communist country using parts of one or the other whenever it suits them and depending on the situation.

 

[Swolemates365]

So has anyone ordered domestic from Tracy since coming back and actually received?

 

[pheno609]

Many have, some happy some not so happy. I wanted to order but people saying they havent been receiving their packs and the high costs put me off, plus its old stock. I would like to contribute to Tracy's comeback, it would be great to see. But i dont want to order something and have it no show up. And honestly, i dont think qsc is coming back the way they were. Tracys tone doesnt help neither, just seems like id be dealing with someone from the ghetto. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and until things are smoothed out, i dont think i will be ordering. Not trying to kick dirt on qsc, they were legendary. Just telling it how it is

 

[dcfreak]

So has anyone ordered domestic from Tracy since coming back and actually received?

Yes