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[Ateam2023]

Derek said 2 IU GH will cause acromegaly.

Man , do you have anything useful to add , besides your unuseful posts , Ive seen several from you today and honestly had to review some of your past post history and i cant find anything useful or helpful to others , just calling people fat and generally negative responses.

 

[qreamy]

Does anyone know if there are interactions between low dose finasteride and EQ? I started EQ to add on to my test cycle about 6 days ago.

 

[SnowyMiami]

Man , do you have anything useful to add , besides your unuseful posts , Ive seen several from you today and honestly had to review some of your past post history and i cant find anything useful or helpful to others , just calling people fat and generally negative responses.

Imagine being triggered enough to look at my post history and chase me around the board.

 

[Ateam2023]

Imagine being triggered enough to look at my post history and chase me around the board.

"triggered? No just entertained" , nobody's chasing you , you just don't like being called out.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Nandrolone does not convert to e2.

Of course it does. Read the very first sentence here:

Nandrolone Insights: Unique Characteristics of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids – Part 6

Nandrolone is a popular anabolic steroid known for joint support, muscle growth, and increased red blood cell production.

thinksteroids.com

 

[Jesintn]

Of course it does. Read the very first sentence here:

Nandrolone Insights: Unique Characteristics of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids – Part 6

Nandrolone is a popular anabolic steroid known for joint support, muscle growth, and increased red blood cell production.

thinksteroids.com

So when a person is taking 1200 mgs of deca a week, which I did for about five weeks, Dhea to raise e2 isn’t an issue, it appears. I used low dose dbol most days , 10 mgs for some androgenic effects. Erection quality was still way down, looking back, comparing to now

Can be enjoyable to take a break from a raging sex drive for a few weeks or even months. Getting horny like tonight when I saw this one girl and start fantasizing about a bunch of younger woman

Those boners will come back, after dropping down , and coming off deca. I added in eq in place, upping dbol to 25 mgs for a short time until nandrolone basically is out of system so I can introduce test back in and finasteride

 

[xrayphoton13]

I keep reading in places that boldenone aromatizes to estrone, which I don’t think is true. Only androstenedione (and prohormone precursors) will aromatize to E1.

However, estrone is both a precursor to and metabolite of estradiol via 17β-HSD1/2. So maybe boldenone and perhaps some metabolites/derivatives (including DHB & primobolan) induce or inhibit these enzymes affecting E1/E2 balance?

This would be sort of a similar case to nandrolone, which barely aromatizes but either upregulates expression of aromatase and/or sensitizes the ER to trans activation by estrogen - that’s why adding it to a cycle so commonly results in gyno or ED despite producing nearly extra estrogen on its own.

@Type-IIx any thoughts on this?

I'm guessing you've read this already? Primobolan / Equipoise Crashed my E2 – Help!

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

I'm guessing you've read this already? Primobolan / Equipoise Crashed my E2 – Help!

Yes - it’s a great article like all of his are. And thanks for sharing it, it’s worth re-reading.

But boldenone has a 17-OH group, so its interaction with aromatase should yield estradiol, not estrone.

Androstenedione has the 17-keto group, its interaction with aromatase yields estrone.

I do think 17α- & 17β-HSD enzymes are key to understanding this. An AAS selecting inhibiting 17α-HSD would explain high E1 levels - and that will both lower E2 and effectively act as an ER inhibitor too.

 

[DonTesto]

Of course it does. Read the very first sentence here:

Nandrolone Insights: Unique Characteristics of Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids – Part 6

Nandrolone is a popular anabolic steroid known for joint support, muscle growth, and increased red blood cell production.

thinksteroids.com

I wipe my ass with those articles. Go ahead, do a nandrolone only cycle and let me know what happens to your E2. They also claim that boldenone coverts at a 50% rate. Also wrong, quite the opposite, boldenone actually acts as an AI.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

I wipe my ass with those articles. Go ahead, do a nandrolone only cycle and let me know what happens to your E2. They also claim that boldenone coverts at a 50% rate. Also wrong, quite the opposite, boldenone actually acts as an AI.

Yeah that 20% figure is thrown around a lot as if it’s fact - believe it came from Llewelyn’s book so I get why, but if I remember the assays/studies he referenced were questionable at best.

Nandrolone probably aromatizes at more like 10%, if that, based on how much is needed to maintain adequate estrogen with it used solo. It does seem to upregulate aromatase and/or ER activity significantly when used with test - adding it to an established good test cycle is an easy path to gyno.

I’m trying EQ now hoping it acts as an AI… primobolan does not for me. Boldenone has an A-ring that shares features with steroidal AIs (exemestane, atamestane, formestane, etc) so it’s possible that it or a metabolite is one. Primobolan does not, and it cannot be metabolized into one because reduction of the c4-5 double bond all those steroidal AIs share is permanent in humans - there is no enzyme to restore it. It’s made me wonder if those using primo whi crash their estrogen got EQ - or a mix of primo/EQ, instead. Probably in some cases, in others that have had happen with tested/real primo it can reduce E2 via some other unclear mechanism.

DHB is nearly identical to primobolan - it’s just missing the C1 methyl group which makes it orally unavailable and much more potent - and have yet to hear any claim it has an AI effect. I’m familiar with the systemic inflammation and liver stress claims, but nothing has increased my strength like DHB even at just 105mg/wk! I’ll use it for short blasts ~ 4 wks to break gym plateaus.

 

[ChemBB]

I wipe my ass with those articles. Go ahead, do a nandrolone only cycle and let me know what happens to your E2. They also claim that boldenone coverts at a 50% rate. Also wrong, quite the opposite, boldenone actually acts as an AI.

My next blast will start will Nandrolone only, partially with the intent to prove that it does aromatize, albeit mildly. (Or more technically, has a metabolic by-product that is Estradiol).

Unrelated: I don't think it's aromatization happens via the aromatase enzyme. This is a long story, but I'll make a post explaining my reasoning with sources.

 

[dinfar1337]

i get why people say eq kicks in earlier than you expect.

day 3 on eq and my veins are popping just walking around butt naked freezing in my house.

super nice feeling, its compareable to tren but milder.

 

[ChemBB]

day 3 on eq and my veins are popping just walking around butt naked freezing in my house.

super nice feeling, its compareable to tren but milder.

I too have some homeopathic remedies you can purchase.

On a serious note, using pharmacokinetics we can calculate the total exposure you would have for days 1-3, versus a single day once blood levels peak:

• Total exposure days 1-3: 600mg
• Total exposure day 100: 770mg

In the first 3 days after an injection of Bold, the total amount in your body is less than a single day once blood levels peak.

If anyone has ever done so much Boldenone that their physique drastically changed every 1 day, I think they'd be half-horse at that point...

 

[dinfar1337]

On a serious note, using pharmacokinetics we can calculate the total exposure you would have for days 1-3, versus a single day once blood levels peak:

thanks for giving me a reality check, im probably just too excited about blasting again xd

 

[xrayphoton13]

I too have some homeopathic remedies you can purchase.

On a serious note, using pharmacokinetics we can calculate the total exposure you would have for days 1-3, versus a single day once blood levels peak:

• Total exposure days 1-3: 600mg
• Total exposure day 100: 770mg

In the first 3 days after an injection of Bold, the total amount in your body is less than a single day once blood levels peak.

If anyone has ever done so much Boldenone that their physique drastically changed every 1 day, I think they'd be half-horse at that point...

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You don't need peak levels to feel something from a hormone though. I don't doubt he's feeling something though like you said an extreme physique change would be unlikely so early. I feel tren e a day or two in. I also felt eq at 3 days in bc I got some bad anxiety on days 3 and 4 but I also front loaded 600mg per day the first 3 days.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Has steroid plotter gone off the rails with their half life calculations? They have eq at just 5 days now. Test decanoate at 5 days but nandrolone decanoate at 10 days. Test e at 7 days. How could test e have a longer half life than test d?

 

[dinfar1337]

I don't doubt he's feeling something though like you said an extreme physique change would be unlikely so early

no crazy physique change, i just feel like my veins looks extra blue and thicker today. like mid gym session 24/7

again might be my self confidence shooting up on cycle or the veiny stuff is already going on at a mild level.

 

[ChemBB]

I feel tren e a day or two in. I also felt eq at 3 days in bc I got some bad anxiety on days 3 and 4

Meanwhile I ran 1,400mg veterinary tren ace + 700 test + 700 mast and i can't tell a difference in mentality between being natty

Physical sides yes, mental changes never for me

I think either some people are very mentally sensitive, or they placebo/hypochondriac convince themselves any feelings must be the steroids

 

[dinfar1337]

mental changes never for me

you just haven't met the right match yet. or maybe you never will

i had the same feeling of just being david googins but trust me there were some compounds which just made it unavoidable.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Meanwhile I ran 1,400mg veterinary tren ace + 700 test + 700 mast and i can't tell a difference in mentality between being natty

Physical sides yes, mental changes never for me

I think either some people are very mentally sensitive, or they placebo/hypochondriac convince themselves any feelings must be the steroids

For me it's masteron. Makes me so angry over everything I sold my whole supply and said never again