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Post up your Natty IGF-1 Level
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TallandSmall
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Not really a natty update, but this seems to be the thread for general IGF level updates.
5/30 - 227 (Natty)
7/25 - 400 (3iu, AAS Natty)
9/5 - 303 (IGFBP3 - 3029)(2.2iu, TRT+ low dose NPP + 30mg anavar)
303 is about an ideal level for me personally. I guess I'll be able to save money on GH since I'm a "strong responder." I was surprised the anavar didn't seem to blunt my response, but I did drop it about a week before my blood draw. I had a CMP with my PCP and my ALT was surprisingly high, so I dropped the var. I'd like to use more GH without a sky high IGF, so I got BP3 tested, but I don't really know how to interpret it or influence it. I had hip surgery last week, so I bumped up to 4iu for post-op healing. My IGF is probably going to the moon. That plus the primal gear and I'll be looking like a gorilla for real by the time I'm off crutches.
5/30 - 227 (Natty)
7/25 - 400 (3iu, AAS Natty)
9/5 - 303 (IGFBP3 - 3029)(2.2iu, TRT+ low dose NPP + 30mg anavar)
303 is about an ideal level for me personally. I guess I'll be able to save money on GH since I'm a "strong responder." I was surprised the anavar didn't seem to blunt my response, but I did drop it about a week before my blood draw. I had a CMP with my PCP and my ALT was surprisingly high, so I dropped the var. I'd like to use more GH without a sky high IGF, so I got BP3 tested, but I don't really know how to interpret it or influence it. I had hip surgery last week, so I bumped up to 4iu for post-op healing. My IGF is probably going to the moon. That plus the primal gear and I'll be looking like a gorilla for real by the time I'm off crutches.
ShutUpAndPump
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TallandSmall
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Ateam2023
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do you "really think it makes a big difference " really,
UG. Haven’t tried pharma. The sides were typical gh sides so I’d expect them either way too. The current 3iu daily is from another vendor so I’ll have another data point soon when I test again.
ShutUpAndPump
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No I mean, we ofter see people that run generic at 8+ iu day and have normal igf-1, so I wanna know if those levels of igf-1 were from pharma or generic
cajunpauper
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While I have read somewhere amongst these boards, though nothing official, that tren can negatively impact IGF levels, this was taken approximately 2 weeks after an experimental low-dose tren ace cycle was completed.
No exogenous GH.
ShutUpAndPump
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Were you on trt so? Or nothing after the experiment? And do you know your baseline igf-1 without tren?
DeodatoFulci
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That is my baseline. Haha.
BigDadd7
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One thing this thread has made clear-
IGF baselines are all over the place. It shows how important it is to have a baseline before starting any GH.
IGF baselines are all over the place. It shows how important it is to have a baseline before starting any GH.
Here’s what IGF looks like on 4iu
Now it’s been a little over a month off GH, still holding at a pretty solid level. Curious to see if there’s going to be a bigger drop-off down the line, and whether it even makes sense to jump back on GH. For context, my baseline IGF-1 was around 90.
Now it’s been a little over a month off GH, still holding at a pretty solid level. Curious to see if there’s going to be a bigger drop-off down the line, and whether it even makes sense to jump back on GH. For context, my baseline IGF-1 was around 90.
ShutUpAndPump
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Please go explain that to the people who use "real" hgh at 10 iu and post IGF-1 at 150 and they claim it's real ahaahaah
Ateam2023
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Genetics, receptor sensitivity, and binding protein levels ( like igfbp-3) can make some people "low responders" on labs despite using real Hgh.
ShutUpAndPump
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True, but if someone is running 10 iu and has 150 igf-1 it's 99% because his hgh is bunk not some rare genetic insensivity disorder
sionnach
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Is it bunk though? Still unclear - your posts are so ambiguous.
ShutUpAndPump
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The guy that has 700 igf-1 with 4 iu is running legit hgh.
Usually each unit of real hgh increases IGF-1 by 100, the result can vary slightly based on the level of nutrition, quality of sleep and levels of estrogen in the body, but approximately that is the ratio.
Banana Joe
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I need to get new bloodwork done eventually.
Will IGF1 really return to my natural baseline, of me being my age, after a few days?
Otherwise getting that done while off HGH would be a waste of time and money for me.
Will IGF1 really return to my natural baseline, of me being my age, after a few days?
Otherwise getting that done while off HGH would be a waste of time and money for me.
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