Dosing pre workout or before bed?
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AlexDavis43
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Theoretically, over 2 on IGF1 z-score is linked with acromegaly if you're susceptible
There are a lot of exceptions, but if making gainz isn't your primary goal and you plan on running GH 4 lyfe, might be prudent to keep IGF1 levels at the high end of normal
AlexDavis43
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minutiae, majoring in the minors
in other words it doesn't matter
some people find GH dose timing influences their sleep quality, gotta experiment to see if you're one of them
shitty sleep will seriously gimp your progress
Flatriggerman
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I inject first thing in the morning. I couldn't sleep when injecting at night. wired. You'll just have to see how your body responds.
Under +2 is considered “normal” and I want to be high normal. I know there is no practical difference between 1.8 and 2.2 but I’m trying to stay under +2 anyway. Also am dealing with high hct and my understanding is higher igf1 can contribute to that.
Yeah I’m doing before bed and sleeping mostly well but waking up after 6 hrs. I may switch to morning and see if it helps.
riggspersonal
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I've always heard that 3 z-score is the threshold for acromelagy risk, so curious where you've heard 2. I've also heard <1.5x the upper end of your reference range. Who knows with this stuff, its not like there is an abundance or RCT data on exogenous HGH use for performance enhancement.
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BatmanVAR
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Over 3 is where the risk of acromegaly kicks in, not 2
Thank heavens.
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He's closed right now, word is he might open soon. But damn dude you're a beast
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ThatGuy500mg
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I just bumped up to 4iu at nights and this was when I noticed I’m getting much better sleep quality. My Apple Watch confirms it too, for whatever that’s worth. However, I’m like 6, maybe 7 hours max and my eyes are wide open ready to go. I feel more rested and probably 15 minutes or so after I inject, I can definitely fall asleep. It’s weird for me. I normally toss and turn for about 45 minutes to an hour before dosing off. At 3iu, I was getting a weird anxiety response that was keeping me awake longer, slightly so when I started at 2iu as well. But 4iu has been great. I am noticing just a little water retention because my definition isn’t showing as well but I’m hoping that will pass and level itself out in a week or so.
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