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1.8iu per day of Opti blue took me from -1 z score to +2.2. I did 1.8 iu because the blue tested at 11, so I just divided by 6 for a daily dose close to 2, then started a vial every 6 days. I’ve since dropped to 1.6iu daily because I want to keep Z score under 2

So even us low z score guys can be high igf responders. I’d stay at 2iu for a month and don’t change anything until you get another igf z score.
Dosing pre workout or before bed?
 
1.8iu per day of Opti blue took me from -1 z score to +2.2. I did 1.8 iu because the blue tested at 11, so I just divided by 6 for a daily dose close to 2, then started a vial every 6 days. I’ve since dropped to 1.6iu daily because I want to keep Z score under 2

So even us low z score guys can be high igf responders. I’d stay at 2iu for a month and don’t change anything until you get another igf z score.

Why are you trying to stay under 2 z-score? Just curious

Theoretically, over 2 on IGF1 z-score is linked with acromegaly if you're susceptible

There are a lot of exceptions, but if making gainz isn't your primary goal and you plan on running GH 4 lyfe, might be prudent to keep IGF1 levels at the high end of normal
 
Why are you trying to stay under 2 z-score? Just curious
Under +2 is considered “normal” and I want to be high normal. I know there is no practical difference between 1.8 and 2.2 but I’m trying to stay under +2 anyway. Also am dealing with high hct and my understanding is higher igf1 can contribute to that.
 
minutiae, majoring in the minors

in other words it doesn't matter

some people find GH dose timing influences their sleep quality, gotta experiment to see if you're one of them

shitty sleep will seriously gimp your progress
Yeah I’m doing before bed and sleeping mostly well but waking up after 6 hrs. I may switch to morning and see if it helps.
 
Theoretically, over 2 on IGF1 z-score is linked with acromegaly if you're susceptible

There are a lot of exceptions, but if making gainz isn't your primary goal and you plan on running GH 4 lyfe, might be prudent to keep IGF1 levels at the high end of normal
I've always heard that 3 z-score is the threshold for acromelagy risk, so curious where you've heard 2. I've also heard <1.5x the upper end of your reference range. Who knows with this stuff, its not like there is an abundance or RCT data on exogenous HGH use for performance enhancement.
 

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