Tdeck81
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Tdeck81
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Turkeybuilder
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Hi guys i’m new to meso but I was on SST for years and never thought to expand my horizons until recent drama.. appears things on this forum are well documented and researched to maintain community safety.
Based on what we’ve found out on here which sources are the most reliable in terms of sterility and getting what you pay for in terms of compounds? There’s like 50 sources on here and it’s a bit of information overload lol
Based on what we’ve found out on here which sources are the most reliable in terms of sterility and getting what you pay for in terms of compounds? There’s like 50 sources on here and it’s a bit of information overload lol
Tdeck81
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It’s funny I was over at SST not that long ago and asking for sources was kind of frowned upon there too. Maybe go do a new member intro and get to know some people here. The rest typically works itself out.
dinfar1337
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we apparently have this laying around on the forum but it haven't been brought up yet.
beautiful conclusion by readalot. i do believe this as something that happens from poor conditions in synthesis both from the gcms test and now that old thread.
dinfar1337
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would be interesting to create a database setup, like google docs where we can document these impurities we find and just keep them forever there for people who are interested.
like you pointed out moving the bonds are very dangerous and especially with the compounds found on tren when it had plastic in it from photons test i found the new bonds to be detrimental to health. have to find a relevance to poor synthesis tho
like you pointed out moving the bonds are very dangerous and especially with the compounds found on tren when it had plastic in it from photons test i found the new bonds to be detrimental to health. have to find a relevance to poor synthesis tho
Photon
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I got a few batches of raws incoming that i plan to get tested, however I'm on the fence between GCMS and hplc.
Take for e.g, this BU GCMS thread shows that GCMS is not a good way to get purity.
However based off the most recent testing, it also shows that anything similar but not the same (degradation, poor manufacturing) is probably incorrectly captured by HPLC and will only show up on GCMS.
As of now, I'm leaning towards GCMS because it does show if a product is "safer" to inject but this leaves me guessing what % to use for brewing
Obviously i could do both..but that doubles my testing cost..
Take for e.g, this BU GCMS thread shows that GCMS is not a good way to get purity.
However based off the most recent testing, it also shows that anything similar but not the same (degradation, poor manufacturing) is probably incorrectly captured by HPLC and will only show up on GCMS.
As of now, I'm leaning towards GCMS because it does show if a product is "safer" to inject but this leaves me guessing what % to use for brewing
Obviously i could do both..but that doubles my testing cost..
If you had enough data points for raws you could get a calibration curve between GCMS API% (via TIC) and HPLC purity just like we found for oils (my hunch). A relative response factor (RRF) if you will. Worked just fine in the oils as shown in your thread.I got a few batches of raws incoming that i plan to get tested, however I'm on the fence between GCMS and hplc.
Take for e.g, this BU GCMS thread shows that GCMS is not a good way to get purity.
However based off the most recent testing, it also shows that anything similar but not the same (degradation, poor manufacturing) is probably incorrectly captured by HPLC and will only show up on GCMS.
As of now, I'm leaning towards GCMS because it does show if a product is "safer" to inject but this leaves me guessing what % to use for brewing
Obviously i could do both..but that doubles my testing cost..
The relative volatilities and ionization are pretty similar for all these components.
Until we have enough data then both tests give you important info.
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And to clarify, this only works if you go to the trouble of using reference standard on compound of interest and confirm it is properly resolved from API with the HPLC method (for example, the c6-c7 ene compound that has been discussed as nauseum). It isn't made by heat in the GC.
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dinfar1337
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its 9-1
and voting is closed dont think more people will vote
even walter wants you in here to lurk on his alts
AlexDavis43
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Gloating? How old are you
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RandallFlagg
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I mean... it's kinda funny but whatever.
Ill never understand people "coming at each other" like bitches on the Internet... especially with the "ignore" feature...but again, I always have the naive belief that most of us would either like each other in real life (or walk completely down the other side of the road and never cross paths again...).
AlexDavis43
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People have said it a million times and there might be something to it... anon internet forums might be a different experience for people if that's their main source of interaction with other humans
Photon
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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'
Jeffholio5
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I’d love to read this whole thread later when I have time but who/where are you guys taking donations for further testing?
RandallFlagg
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So is the issue mostly that Primal needs to upgrade his bottle top filter when brewing? If so, should be easy enough fix,.or not?MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'
Or is there a more nefarious concern? (e.g. oils are actually some Chinese made shit being resold after repackaging?) I'll be honest I fell way too behind to follow all this.
If the problem is Choice #1, then obviously we don't need to villanize a vendor that is doing additional testing...but what the hell do I know.
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