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I don’t get the water weight but if I try to go from 5 to 6 iu I get a pretty quick (minor but noticeable and consistent) increase in BP. It subsides after some weeks but it’s there. I don’t know how these guys ramp up so quickly. Same happened when I went from 4 to 5. Took 2-3 weeks to return to baseline resting BP
Carb type can add to that on GH. Lots of high GI carbs and big carb swings. It’s not always an ancillaries fix either. Examine everything. Sleep, high stress, cortisol, night time food timing. Manage sodium and get enough potassium. And yes your E2 needs to be in check. HGH makes your body more responsive to estrogen. It doesn’t increase your estrogen of course. Are you on Deca or NPP perhaps? You can try splitting your dose if you still struggle with it. But look at everything. Troubleshooting 101 is like this. Eliminate one thing at a time. Is my sleep good? Okay not that. How’s my stress, welp not that. Go for easy things first before adding something to combat it. Everyone wants to add things but first understand what else could it be. You could be adding something that isn’t needed and why add something we don’t need.
Same dude. When I started out 2iu, then 4iu then 6iu ventured to 8iu before currently at 10iu. Between 6iu and 10iu it wasn't as bad, but early on BP was a fight daily. With all those doses I had to maintain for several months before increasing.
Dude I'm still sorry to hear this. But ultimately it's for the better. I lost those side effects so long ago, and didn't miss them so I feel your pain bro. Best wishes man.
I remember that though man, I would drop things randomly upon picking them up. Like mentally I was using enough force to pick the keys up off the counter, but due to numbness they would hit the floor. I had to use level 10 in everything I did to overcompensate.
Manage your estrogen. I had high e2 once when first playing with gh and of course thought it was the gh fault. I went from 4iu down to 1iu for two weeks and nothing changed. Completely dropped gh and nothing changed. Took a little more ai… problem solved and hopped back straight to 4iu with zero problems from then on
Thanks for the detailed response and recommendations.
I was also asymptomatic with high estrogen aside from extreme bloat. My jawline was gone and couldn’t see veins in my forearms anymore (it’s usually a roadmap). Started getting estrogen under control and dropped over 10lbs in less than a week
Of course. We are all just trying to get better. HGH is a fickle fellow and we all respond different (if you recall the primo E2 spat not long ago lol). No one method works but there is always a common denominator we have to find. Perhaps for you the 80 E2 is it. It is worth seeing a doc for some BP meds just in case. A low dose AI might do the trick for you on the E2 so you don’t crash it out especially if you are feeling good. Like you I don’t get sides off higher E2 but I will bring it down to my sweet spot to make sure. Maybe .5 Arimidex twice a week to start if you go that route. Someone may have a better idea but that has worked for me and we seem to have similar E2 responses far as sides go.
Negative. The trainer I was using at the time was the one who put me on to the idea. Said I had nothing to worry about with this dosage, so I didn’t. I don’t use that trainer anymore
