BPC-157 and TB500 should never be mixed? and other claims

[AllGoodThings]

I'm interested if there is a forum consensus on this guy, or any personal opinions on him, specifically on his knowledge and the accuracy of his claims/info, not his personality. This video is claiming BPC-157 and TB500 should never be mixed in the same barrel/syringe, nevermind in the same vial, and that GHK-Cu should never be mixed with anything, amongst other claims that go against what's been common practice for the mixing together of certain peptides. While I agree that there are definitely certain peptides that have no business being combined (for instance, I'd never mix GH with anything, and I've heard Reta doesn't play well with others, nor does MT2), and I personally don't mix anything that is an unknown, and only mix things I see offered together as combo peptides, he definitely takes it a step or two further. I'm not well educated enough to discern the truth here, but he has me wondering about my BPC157/T500 mix's, as well as my KLOW and GLOW. Unlike certain AAS and other compounds that act in a definitive manner, the actions of some of these peptides are subtle enough that I think it's possible that we can be rendering them less effective, or worse, by mixing them, and not really know the difference.


View: https://youtu.be/7vsau7C_oaA?si=8sFMdc0JN34pdzaH

 

[Dial It In]

I'm interested if there is a forum consensus on this guy, or any personal opinions on him, specifically on his knowledge and the accuracy of his claims/info, not his personality. This video is claiming BPC-157 and TB500 should never be mixed in the same barrel/syringe, nevermind in the same vial, and that GHK-Cu should never be mixed with anything, amongst other claims that go against what's been common practice for the mixing together of certain peptides. While I agree that there are definitely certain peptides that have no business being combined (for instance, I'd never mix GH with anything, and I've heard Reta doesn't play well with others, nor does MT2), and I personally don't mix anything that is an unknown, and only mix things I see offered together as combo peptides, he definitely takes it a step or two further. I'm not well educated enough to discern the truth here, but he has me wondering about my BPC157/T500 mix's, as well as my KLOW and GLOW. Unlike certain AAS and other compounds that act in a definitive manner, the actions of some of these peptides are subtle enough that I think it's possible that we can be rendering them less effective, or worse, by mixing them, and not really know the difference.


View: https://youtu.be/7vsau7C_oaA?si=8sFMdc0JN34pdzaH

Feel like that can be a deep rabbit hole to figure out. Just peptides in general aren’t all FDA tested as we all know. It is known that peptides and other compounds can disrupt the molecular structure of each other. I don’t foresee any extensive mixing with test studies. I suppose it could be okay but the unknown is can it impact the potency? We have combos of other items but don’t see any peptide combos in one vial. Maybe it’s because getting the concentration correct is difficult or indeed they just don’t get along. Personally I’ve always done each separate. Now could there be an exception when the ph snd excipients are the same?

 

[just some dude]

when SSA was around i asked a sales rep and they said it was fine to mix. but thats them talking about a blend they created, maybe they added stuff so that it mixes better.

worst come to worst if you still don’t want to buy blends just make your own blends at the last second with the syringe, just mix them in the syringe instead of in the vial

 

[vulpes]

I don't mix them but there are a lot of people even buying them mixed and we are not hearing of terrible things, so the risk is probably low. But do we lose efficacy if peptides mess about with each other?

I really look forward to some scientist answering this because it would save some pinning.

 

[zneekah]

The topic is interesting but the youtube guy you linked seems mentally unwell with weird anger issues and intellectual insecurities.

 

[Banana Joe]

I really can't deliver any qualified answer to that matter.

But leaving aside, that someone opening his talk/ramble, about any topic with an oversized mug of coffee, is always suspicious to me - I would take anything this guy says with a mountain of salt:

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCinp7opndg&t=6s

 

[Dial It In]

I really can't deliver any qualified answer to that matter.

But leaving aside, that someone opening his talk/ramble, about any topic with an oversized mug of coffee, is always suspicious to me - I would take anything this guy says with a mountain of salt:




View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCinp7opndg&t=6s

Soon as I see Doctor, GOAT and stack wealth in the first paragraph I instantly get douche vibes

 

[Scooby69]

With GLOW for example, if mixing caused an issue of peptide degradation, aggregation, or chemical reaction somehow, I would think this would be detected by a Janoshik test. The Janoshik results that I have seen of GLOW from sources look just fine to me.

 

[zneekah]

With GLOW for example, if mixing caused an issue of peptide degradation, aggregation, or chemical reaction somehow, I would think this would be detected by a Janoshik test. The Janoshik results that I have seen of GLOW from sources look just fine to me.

Thought about this but maybe the thesis is the degradation happens when bac is added. Would be an interesting experiment to add bac and check purity after 1 month or something.

 

[JPMOTM]

I've mixed quite a lot to be fair. Just trial and error and no true testing. If it goes cloudy, its denatured / degraded. Its super obvious, when you draw the second compound up the whole thing looks like it suddenly freezes and goes cloudy.

Reta really doesnt like to mix with other stuff. I've mixed my GH with L-carnitine for over 4 months now. No change in levels of side effects with the GH. MT2 mixes with a lot of stuff, DSIP seems ok too. MT2 is a nice one to test because you get the almost immediate nausea hit.

BPC and TB come premixed all the time, same with GHK and KPV now too. Generally people worry peptides are super delicate. But they are getting injected into you and have decent degredation half-lives of hours or days. They survive shooting around a 37 degrees (98 F) pressurised artery full of enzymes and all sorts of molecules for hours.

Maybe even the ones that stay clear when mixed, start to degrade at a slow rate, and would eventually go cloudy. But if they are only in contact with eachother for 5 or 10 seconds if you are drawing up from multiple vials, the degradation would be minimal. IMO its worth the risk to save literally 100s if not 1000s of jabs a year.

 

[ChemBB]

I've always bought BPC + TB as mixed content vials lol

 

[Banana Joe]

There should be a simple and clear answer to this question.

I am just not that well versed in organic chemistry, that I could even remotely answer it.

Anecdotally, my GH is cloudy if I don't add enough bac water, which is presumably just because the mannitol(?) didn't get dissolved properly.
Which somewhat checks out with the fact that the solubility of mannitol in water is approximately 216 mg/mL at 25°C.

 

[zneekah]

There should be a simple and clear answer to this question.

I am just not that well versed in organic chemistry, that I could even remotely answer it.

Anecdotally, my GH is cloudy if I don't add enough bac water, which is presumably just because the mannitol(?) didn't get dissolved properly.
Which somewhat checks out with the fact that the solubility of mannitol in water is approximately 216 mg/mL at 25°C.

You just made me realize something. I've suddenly started bloating heavily from my GH and I thought it coincided with me stopping Reta (Im sure this has some effect) but I have also started jamming 2*24iu(27iu) vials into my insulin cartridge instead of 1 - which could mean the mannitol isnt dissolved and I'm therefore bloating?

I owe you banana man !!!!

 

[Banana Joe]

You just made me realize something. I've suddenly started bloating heavily from my GH and I thought it coincided with me stopping Reta (Im sure this has some effect) but I have also started jamming 2*24iu(27iu) vials into my insulin cartridge instead of 1 - which could mean the mannitol isnt dissolved and I'm therefore bloating?

I owe you banana man !!!!

You're welcome!

Not sure if that actually the cause, but I coincidentally read about this a few days ago on Meso. I am sure there are more posts about this, use "12iu" as your search term.

 

[deuces_00]

I'm interested if there is a forum consensus on this guy, or any personal opinions on him, specifically on his knowledge and the accuracy of his claims/info, not his personality. This video is claiming BPC-157 and TB500 should never be mixed in the same barrel/syringe, nevermind in the same vial, and that GHK-Cu should never be mixed with anything, amongst other claims that go against what's been common practice for the mixing together of certain peptides. While I agree that there are definitely certain peptides that have no business being combined (for instance, I'd never mix GH with anything, and I've heard Reta doesn't play well with others, nor does MT2), and I personally don't mix anything that is an unknown, and only mix things I see offered together as combo peptides, he definitely takes it a step or two further. I'm not well educated enough to discern the truth here, but he has me wondering about my BPC157/T500 mix's, as well as my KLOW and GLOW. Unlike certain AAS and other compounds that act in a definitive manner, the actions of some of these peptides are subtle enough that I think it's possible that we can be rendering them less effective, or worse, by mixing them, and not really know the difference.


View: https://youtu.be/7vsau7C_oaA?si=8sFMdc0JN34pdzaH

agreed. this guy does have some good info but holy shit is it hidden between virtue signalling, talks about how he is literally the hottest shit to grace the earth, and whatever else. thank god for video chapters.

 

[Gb9]

Been mixing BPC and TB500 into same syringe for a couple months. No issues here

 

[r1rudy]

I've been buying blends and they seem to be awesome. For me and a few friends

 

[sionnach]

I'm interested if there is a forum consensus on this guy,

I have a hard time listening to short people with yuge egos without laughing hysterically, but I admit that's a personal issue I need to work on.
This guy specifically though...cheated at CrossFit.

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That's too many layers of hilarity for me to ever take seriously.

 

[Duck Eggs]

You just made me realize something. I've suddenly started bloating heavily from my GH and I thought it coincided with me stopping Reta (Im sure this has some effect) but I have also started jamming 2*24iu(27iu) vials into my insulin cartridge instead of 1 - which could mean the mannitol isnt dissolved and I'm therefore bloating?

I owe you banana man !!!!

The quantity of mannitol in GH vials in insufficient to provide any diuretic effect by orders of magnitude, that's a bro legend that needs to die. (For diuretic effects dosage is typically multiple grams PER kg of bodyweight)

Also, mannitol is used as an admixture in most peptide lyophilization solutions. If such were true, people would see diuretic effect from injecting just about any peptide on the market. It is the majority of the puck you see in any peptide vial.

 

[NothingPersona]

Works fine for me.