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Just don't use baking soda if you can avoid it.

That stuff reacts with oxymetholone.

Methanol adduct is well known, but I 'discovered' reaction with baking soda too!

I will check once I'm at the lab, but yeah

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MeOH reacts with anadrol, but we are used to it and detect the methanol adduct.

About other fillers... We don't really have the ability to keep all that in check.

So we see all this discussion is very much applicable to Primal and very relevant to ordering from him if you use anadrol.

If there is an artifact with sodium bicarbonate and oxymetholone during the MeOH extraction method for HPLC analysis then the community should be aware. Primal can then adjust his capsule protocol to avoid these issues in the future.

What better place to discuss this than in the thread of the source who aspires to change the game and redefine standards? He built his whole marketing shtick around it. Can't have it both ways.

Nice to see some folks finally speaking up and making it known they are interested in this instead of succumbing to the middle school "fun shit" mentality. This is how we learn as a community.
 
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A simple response from Jano addressing the sodium bicarbonate matrix and what he has observed would clear things up.

You'd probably need to tag him to get a response which is also why I suggested moving the discussion to the Jano thread.

After getting a confirmation, we can then push vendors to make changes.
 
So we see all this discussion is very much applicable to Primal and very relevant to ordering from him if you use anadrol.

If there is an artifact with sodium bicarbonate and oxymetholone with the MeOH extraction method for HPLC then the community should be aware. Primal can then adjust his capsule protocol to avoid these issues in the future.

What better place to discuss this than in the thread of the source who aspires to change the game and redefine standards? He built his whole marketing shtick around it. Can't have it both ways.

Nice to see some folks finally speaking up and making it known they are interested in this instead of succumbing to the middle school "fun shit" mentality.
You’ve got all these fine people convinced you are contributing to Harm Reduction. So let’s play a fun game @readalot. You love to pat yourself on the back. Tell all these fine people what you have done to contribute to Harm Reduction with Primal.

Caps, vials and stoppers? Meh
Convincing Primal to fund your testing projects? lol. That hasn’t done anything to reduce harm. That was for you and you only.
Tren color? Don’t make me laugh. You should be embarrassed.
This new shiny thing with the capsules? Again, going nowhere.

You spin everyone up with your nonsense then when it fizzles (as it always does), you move on to the next shiny thing your autistic brain latches onto.
 
You'd probably need to tag him to get a response which is also why I suggested moving the discussion to the Jano thread.

After getting a confirmation, we can then push vendors to make changes.
I quoted him multiple times in post above. He is quite aware.

A simple response curve for 10 to 100 mg of anadrol with MeOH and sodium bicarbonate would tell the story. Along with spikes.

Instead, folks are scratching their heads.
 
MeOH reacts with anadrol, but we are used to it and detect the methanol adduct.

About other fillers... We don't really have the ability to keep all that in check.
Again I’m only try to follow along because most of this is over my head. I hate to speculate but potentially we could wait forever for testing that will be inconclusive anyway. But assuming the Jano tests are valid, which I think most people accept, are these the most likely “culprits”.

1 different under dosed raw was utilized
2 different more reactive filler was utilized
3 too low a dose of Anadrol was utilized

If we suspect 2 then what are we ingesting?
 
Damn, I need somebody to feud with. You guys are making me feel some serious FOMO.
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What is thread spam? Is it dudes nerding out together and spitballing ideas and trying to come to some sort of logical conclusion about a product made by the source whose thread we are in? OR would it be considered spamming to post the same complaints over and over in the thread, whining about people talking about things that are over your head or you’re disinterested in? Genuine question.
 
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