(US) Vendor gear found with dissolved brewing equipment (Plastic)

[BDog99]

No issues meaning they left the oil in the syringe for weeks then tested the oil for plastic leeching?

Exactly my point

 

[Photon]

Plenty of people backload slin pins for 1-3 weeks with no issues. Make sure gear is good and it doesn't contain EO or super solvents. I'd backload a syringe today and leave it in the drawer for 15-20 days.

After that inspect it carefully, if you see any parts of the rubber missing or anything weird toss it and abort the idea, otherwise you'll be fine for 1-2 weeks worth backloading.

Off course with naked eye no one can be 100% sure but if we talk about chunks of rubber they won't even pass from a 29-30G needle. Proceed with caution xD

Obviously, you need some good quality syringes like BD, B.Braun, Nipro etc..avoid dirt cheap Amazon or Chinese ones.

I personally do backload carnitine and glutathione injections and store them in the fridge. Really does save alot of time with daily pins.

It's water based tho, close to no solvents involved.

 

[just some dude]

I personally do backload carnitine and glutathione injections and store them in the fridge. Really does save alot of time with daily pins.

It's water based tho, close to no solvents involved.

the alcohol tho

 

[Photon]

the alcohol tho

yea
0.9% Benzyl Alcohol @ 4 degrees C

 

[just some dude]

who doesn’t like plastic with their tren?

 

[dcfreak]

I load 7 pins on sunday for the week.

Peptides as well. One week at a time.

 

[Mastedon]

I'm trying to learn as much as possible here and my skill set is definitely not in the sciences...so if I wanted to avoid the potential issues do I avoid gear made with bottle top filters? All bottle top filters or specific ones? Do I look for pump systems with capsule filters? I'm fine digging around but any help to know what to look for would be great.

 

[Mastedon]

I am looking for veterans who have purchased gear from the below vendors from Jan-Sep this year to send in their sealed vials for testing.

Test to order is HPLC+GCMS

Primal
Mast P200

I'm no veteran but I'm willing to help out and I'm 99% sure I have the Mast P200 from that timeframe.
Can check a bit later although I've never sent anything in to Jano so I might have a couple questions.
I probably also have the NPP200. Any interest in me sending that in too?

 

[Tdeck81]

Do I look for pump systems with capsule filters?

I could be off base but I thought that was a simple solution. But I have zero experience and it’s only speculation on my end

 

[Photon]

yea
0.9% Benzyl Alcohol @ 4 degrees C

I'm gonna try freezing it instead, i think someone people here do that.

 

[Trena100]

The contaminated gear came from primal? Or am I reading it wrong

 

[Photon]

I'm no veteran but I'm willing to help out and I'm 99% sure I have the Mast P200 from that timeframe. I probably also have the NPP200. Any interest in me sending that in too?

Sure that'd be good.
I'd wait for Primal to test the new batch of Mast P200 first tho.
It's already at Jano.

 

[Mastedon]

Sure that'd be good.
I'd wait for Primal to test the new batch of Mast P200 first tho.
It's already at Jano.

Ahh makes sense

 

[Tbaz192]

The contaminated gear came from primal? Or am I reading it wrong

Yes the Tren 400 in 2 batches
Everyone here is trying to see if other high concentrations have the plastic in it as well. But requires GCMS testing from jano

From my understanding it’s from elevated levels of BB used to make high concentrations. It’s degrading / melting the filter top they use & that’s being trapped in the oil as they’re brewed/filled.

 

[readalot]

https://thinksteroids.com/community...zed-testing-group-fund.134430810/post-3588011

Yes.

And potentially more shit in there that wasn't measured. Would need additional equipment.

https://thinksteroids.com/community...zed-testing-group-fund.134430810/post-3588018

So I will ask again.



I provided the NIST mass spectrum and @proton provided Jano's mass spectrum for peak 3.

Benzenemethanamine, N-hydroxy-N-(phenylmethyl)-

webbook.nist.gov

Next would be ordering a reference standard and generating another mass spectrum. What else shall we do to confirm the identity of this compound?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Jesus. I have thousands of dollars of Primal gear. I wonder how much of it is contaminated fml.

I wouldn't sweat it just yet

This could be shit that guys have been injecting for literally decades with no obvious problems; it's just that the compounds are being detected now for the first time

(don't @ me bubble boys)

 

[AllGoodThings]

This is making me very thankful that the high concentration gear wasn't offered at any discount on a mg for mg basis, which lead me to purchase the lower/standard concentration stuff. It's kind of crazy to me how so many UGL's have been using various materials in their filters, stopper, etc... that are simply not compatible with benzyl benzoate, especially when higher concentrations of it are needed/used.

 

[Mastedon]

Jesus. I have thousands of dollars of Primal gear. I wonder how much of it is contaminated fml.

Definitely a concern for me as well but I guess if there are "no obvious problems" then everything is fine lol.
It's only the obvious problems that can cause real harm

 

[onlyontrt]

Definitely a concern for me as well but I guess if there are "no obvious problems" then everything is fine lol.
It's only the obvious problems that can cause real harm

Is Primal reimbursing anyone for the Tren 400 find?

 

[AlexDavis43]

It's only the obvious problems that can cause real harm

Feel free to blame me if you blast this gear for 30 years and get achy joints or forget where you put your keys