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[Photon]

I personally also only buy lab tested oils as well. So I get why people push for testing. Idk it just feels like it’s more than just that in this thread sometimes but maybe that’s how things are on this forum compared to what i’m used to

Combination of several factors i guess.
Multiple CN sources are getting raided.
Other sources are going OOS and increasing MOQ.
People getting worried.

Personally I don't care much about vendor testing as long as they reimburse it, you can send it in, get it tested much faster than waiting for vendors. However with there being alot of fake raws out there, it doesn't do vendors any good if they don't at least test the raws before selling..

 

[readalot]

Idk it just feels like it’s more than just that in this thread sometimes

I take Primal at his word. Great opportunity to move this space and community forward with a sizeable improvement in standards.

His testing reimbursement policy is fantastic. Best in class. Incredible transition from store credit to actual reimbursement with PERSEC crypto.

 

[CHIEF M]

Kain has TRA raws from QSC that's 98%+ but the actual purity was I think 100.3%.

My Test D raws are at 99.4% but also reported as 98%+.

Janoshik Analytical

I mean it doesn't mean much lol, I'm just saying it's how they report it.

Kain is dope

 

[Ferhev]

I love Primal gear. I’ve been using MastP 100 and 200 with no issues at all. I just ordered 5 Test C 250.

I also agree to keep pushing for quality but I think Primal has been incredibly open and pretty much talk with us everyday about any concerns. Let’s keep pushing to raise the bar but understanding that Primal offers a A+ service!

 

[RockyP]

I love Primal gear. I’ve been using MastP 100 and 200 with no issues at all. I just ordered 5 Test C 250.

I also agree to keep pushing for quality but I think Primal has been incredibly open and pretty much talk with us everyday about any concerns. Let’s keep pushing to raise the bar but understanding that Primal offers a A+ service!

I would agree here. The only thing I’d add is I’d like to see more testing of the high conc gear (mastP 200, T500, etc) to be sure there’s no plastic contamination. But like you said Primal has been great.

 

[Ferhev]

I would agree here. The only thing I’d add is I’d like to see more testing of the high conc gear (mastP 200, T500, etc) to be sure there’s no plastic contamination. But like you said Primal has been great.

I agree with you. Testing it’s important and we definitely need it.

 

[Tbaz192]

So much testing talk. Yall were waiting for jano to send the results on everything primal sent. But yet apparently it wasn’t enough for GCMS testing. Cool, where’s the hplc testing then on those samples? Unless I missed something these tests are taking forever.

 

[BigDadd7]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

It may be that for some people. I always question the motive behind things.

It's worth noting that primal embraces, and even encourages, the questioning. That's why this source has the most extensive testing and reimbursement.

 

[Tbaz192]

I must have missed some drama in this thread since i’m so new, why is everyone seemingly up this source’s ass when it comes to raws and oils despite clearly good results historically? Almost like some people are waiting/wanting this source to fuck up. I don’t see this on other sources threads

Degraded plastic was found in high concentration Tren 400.

 

[MisterT]

So much testing talk. Yall were waiting for jano to send the results on everything primal sent. But yet apparently it wasn’t enough for GCMS testing. Cool, where’s the hplc testing then on those samples? Unless I missed something these tests are taking forever.

+1 cool you sent more in for GCMS but where is the HPLC on TE250 and the other oils. You said you sent TE250 finished oils beginning of sept but yet still no hplc on that.

 

[Bandern]

Primal rescued my drowning grandmother

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Degraded plastic was found in high concentration Tren 400.

Gotta be precise here. “Degraded plastic was found” is incorrect.

What the GC-MS screening showed was an unidentified peak that elutes where common plasticizers often show up. That’s not the same as confirming degraded plastic. Without a reference standard match, correct ion-ratio criteria, blanks, and an orthogonal confirmation, you can’t call it plastic. It could be column bleed, phthalate carryover from labware, or a solvent artifact. especially with dense oils like Tren 400.

 

[justanoob]

Im just going to throw this out there, the added plastic to my cycle is giving me all the gains. 274lbs this morning lol

 

[Oldhand]

Im just going to throw this out there, the added plastic to my cycle is giving me all the gains. 274lbs this morning lol

Looking jacked dude

 

[CHIEF M]

Im just going to throw this out there, the added plastic to my cycle is giving me all the gains. 274lbs this morning lol

Must be tall gotta lot of frame to fill in there sir

 

[justanoob]

Must be tall gotta lot of frame to fill in there sir

6’5 it’s a struggle but we’re getting there

 

[Photon]

Gotta be precise here. “Degraded plastic was found” is incorrect.

What the GC-MS screening showed was an unidentified peak that elutes where common plasticizers often show up. That’s not the same as confirming degraded plastic. Without a reference standard match, correct ion-ratio criteria, blanks, and an orthogonal confirmation, you can’t call it plastic. It could be column bleed, phthalate carryover from labware, or a solvent artifact. especially with dense oils like Tren 400.

The precise statement is
"Jano lab provided written confirmation of plastic contamination in 2 different batches of TRE400."

You can argue about the science but ultimately it is a fact, that written confirmation was provided by the lab.

 

[CHIEF M]

6’5 it’s a struggle but we’re getting there

Damn tall af but yeah man just keep working and you’ll fill in eventually look good though man

 

[Primal_Pharma]

+1 cool you sent more in for GCMS but where is the HPLC on TE250 and the other oils. You said you sent TE250 finished oils beginning of sept but yet still no hplc on that.

I’ve said this a few times - I post updates to remind myself to send things in, and in this case I realized weeks later it hadn’t actually gone out that day. My apologies. But I post results the moment they land.

This is the last time I’m answering this. Results will be posted when they’re in. Simple! We’ve got a massive client base that trusts us and buys what’s in stock. If waiting on results isn’t for you, no hard feelings—we are more than happy to point you to another source with recent reports! Oh wait, that's if they have them...

 

[Primal_Pharma]

The precise statement is
"Jano lab provided written confirmation of plastic contamination in 2 different batches of TRE400."

You can argue about the science but ultimately it is a fact, that written confirmation was provided by the lab.

I’m still a bit confused. Jano’s report said “contaminated BB sample.” Was that the benzyl benzoate (BB) you sent in? Can you clarify what that means in plain, layman’s terms?