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[Oldhand]

Congratulations on your new identity as Jordan Belfort.

I am laughing way too hard at this!

 

[newguy2]

Shit tons of bad info out there about reta, diet and macros. Most doctors and nutritionists don't even know wtf they're talking about when it comes to reta, mostly because it's not for legit sale yet, still in trials. It shouldn't be called (or marketed as) a GLP-1, imo.
HMU if you need help.

I wasn't the one that made the Reta connection. I just find a lot of benefits from carbs. I get the idea of carb cycling on certain days. But are 0 carb days necessary?

 

[k710]

I don't need to lose either. The metabolic optimization is the entire reason I take it. It makes everything easier, losing, lean gaining, maintaining.

This is my reason for staying on it. What dosage do you use?

Ive been at 1mg since start, but was thinking of doing maybe half since I need to eat more to push growth. Need to revisit the studies and make sure the dosing still allows for the metabolic benefits.

 

[Bandern]

Chronic nicotine can too.

You take that back right now

 

[sionnach]

I wasn't the one that made the Reta connection. I just find a lot of benefits from carbs. I get the idea of carb cycling on certain days. But are 0 carb days necessary?

Meant to include @Bandern on that reply, sorry.

This is my reason for staying on it. What dosage do you use?

Ive been at 1mg since start, but was thinking of doing maybe half since I need to eat more to push growth. Need to revisit the studies and make sure the dosing still allows for the metabolic benefits.

Minimum dose in the trials was 2mg. 0.5 or even 1mg is a waste of time imo. I do 6mg/wk currently. I dropped to 4mg for a few weeks and still had low level ketones but BG, although still good, wasn't staying in as tight a window.

 

[sionnach]

You take that back right now

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Shit bro, I got 3 lip pillows in right now.

 

[Bandern]

Meant to include @Bandern on that reply, sorry.

I was curious what your thoughts would be on running a few 0 carb days a week on reta. I do enjoy your big brain reta posts and was happy you specifically did not call me developmentally disabled!

 

[Dial It In]

Grats on the huge loss! And nice work with the protein, most people who try it don't have a clue about monitoring protein intake.

Reta's only a tiny fraction as active at GLP-1 as sema. If you want more appetite suppression, you can add sema or tirz. Some people have success with cagrilintide too (didn't do shit for my hunger during a cut though).

I don't need to lose either. The metabolic optimization is the entire reason I take it. It makes everything easier, losing, lean gaining, maintaining.

I eat like an Ethiopian in a donut factory when I’m running reta. Just not donuts

 

[AllbrandNew]

I was curious what your thoughts would be on running a few 0 carb days a week on reta. I do enjoy your big brain reta posts and was happy you specifically did not call me developmentally disabled!

We prefer 'differently-abled' or 'handi-capable' nowaday anyways.

 

[Ghoul]

Yes. Fasting BG is 74. Protein is at 1.5g. Diet is dialed.

I mean that I experienced significantly less appetite suppression as your body gets used to it and I found when I escalated the dosing there was a point of diminished returns. I would say 6mg would be a cap in my experience. I know the trials show 8mg weekly as the most effective and almost the same results north of 8 as 8.

Just my anecdote.

I went from 225 to 175 on it so I am not complaining. Its time for me to come off anyway besides keeping it in for insulin sensitivity.

There's no tolerance to Reta (or Sema or Tirz) any more than there is to other hormones like insulin or Testosterone, When you get the homeostasis weight that dose established, which is what GLP does, appetite suppression slows then stops. If you stayed at that dose and somehow regain 10 lbs appetite suppression would return until you go back down.

 

[Dial It In]

I was taking tadalafil as well. I asked someone in a diff thread that was having the same shit happen and he confirmed adding electrolytes got rid of his issues. I was always slamming water but never electrolytes. And probably was shorting myself on sodium accidentally. Good to know I can probably add the reta back in. Thanks for the info

Some coconut water with some intra workout aminos mixes that have electrolytes works wonders.

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

Just a lil sumthin sumthin for this current bulk!

 

[sionnach]

I was curious what your thoughts would be on running a few 0 carb days a week on reta. I do enjoy your big brain reta posts and was happy you specifically did not call me developmentally disabled!

You can run zero carb infinitely on reta. As long as you're hitting your protein for the day, your body will make enough glucose to power your brain and organs. Whether it can make enough BG to fuel muscle expenditure and growth at BB levels is a discussion I'll leave to the broscientists to yell at each other about (but I will say it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks).

The real danger with reta is eating too many carbs. Eating like a 90s powerlifter on vacation confuses your body - you're telling it to make more sugar but also cramming it in - and you run the risk of hyperglycemia at the end of the day, blowing out your pancreas overnight pumping out a ton of insulin to clear it out, and waking up hypoglycemic. I don't think there's much danger at 300, 400 maybe, but that will depend on your history of insulin sensitivity/resistance.

Some days I hit 250g easy, some days I'm at zero. BG stays pretty consistent.

 

[dcfreak]

There's no tolerance to Reta (or Sema or Tirz) any more than there is to other hormones like insulin or Testosterone, When you get the homeostasis weight that dose established, which is what GLP does, appetite suppression slows then stops. If you stayed at that dose and somehow regain 10 lbs appetite suppression would return until you go back down.

Interesting. Thank you for the reply!

 

[Bandern]

You can run zero carb infinitely on reta. As long as you're hitting your protein for the day, your body will make enough glucose to power your brain and organs. Whether it can make enough BG to fuel muscle expenditure and growth at BB levels is a discussion I'll leave to the broscientists to yell at each other about (but I will say it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks).

The real danger with reta is eating too many carbs. Eating like a 90s powerlifter on vacation confuses your body - you're telling it to make more sugar but also cramming it in - and you run the risk of hyperglycemia at the end of the day, blowing out your pancreas overnight pumping out a ton of insulin to clear it out, and waking up hypoglycemic. I don't think there's much danger at 300, 400 maybe, but that will depend on your history of insulin sensitivity/resistance.

Some days I hit 250g easy, some days I'm at zero. BG stays pretty consistent.

Cool that pretty much confirms my thoughts on the zero carb days. I know it definitely won’t help maintain performance in the gym on a cut but I’ve done it plenty during previous diets and only my pressing movements suffer, which is to be expected. I figure if anything the increased gluconeogenesis should give me a leg up over what I’ve done in the past.

Idk if I’d even be able to get down 400 carbs on the 2mg I’m on now, we’ll see how much the appetite suppression fades. I am looking forward to using it during my reverse diet though, that’s where I’m most likely to go full window taster.

 

[Elektrobot]

I’ve been a 3 pump chump for round one since starting trt/hcg 6 months ago

Girls love it. Makes them think you like them.

 

[bighoss86]

I always use the GGG method. Get in, Get off, Get out.

 

[manbat]

I like to go just long enough that my wife thinks “Wow, maybe this time-“, then explode.

 

[Bandern]

I always use the GGG method. Get in, Get off, Get out.

I follow the 123 method
1 pump
2 inches
3 minutes of crying

 

[Mastedon]

3 minutes of crying

Who's doing the crying?