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[Juicedhead]

I've heard this too, and I've actually gone that high with gh briefly, but lowered it due to cost considerations, so it definitely wasn't going to happen in my case. I still don't see that there's actual, compelling evidence that this is true. I'd be interested in any research backing up this claim, preferably in vivo, although I'm not sure even in vitro studies exist. The only results I see for gh and hyperplasia are related to pituitary and mammary gland hyperplasia.

I mean if you consider the gut that gh and insulin give thats gotta be hyperplasia right? How could the organ cells get bigger idk so maybe thats proof of hyperplasia? Im purely speculating.

 

[Mrhairyman]

Does anyone have feedback/test results on his current Blue top (10.86) ?

 

[Ghoul]

I mean if you consider the gut that gh and insulin give thats gotta be hyperplasia right? How could the organ cells get bigger idk so maybe thats proof of hyperplasia? Im purely speculating.

Visceral growth, especially intestines, is one of the first acromegalic effects from excess IGF for too long. rHGH is actually pretty useful for renewing intestines by thickening the walls, which makes nutrient absorption better, and blocks endotoxin from entering the bloodstream (aka "leaky gut"). Since endotoxin triggers systemic inflammation, when it's stopped aches and pains are reduced, mental clarity improves, immune function fights off illness more effectively, overall sense of wellbeing goes up. rHGH is used "off label" post intestinal surgery to speed healing.

Of course, "too much of a good thing" and you end up with Pulumbo gut.

 

[CHIEF M]

Does anyone have feedback/test results on his current Blue top (10.86) ?

Actually just got them now looks good to me @Opti 10iu blue tops

 

[181]

Does anyone have feedback/test results on his current Blue top (10.86) ?

been on them for a few months. working great

 

[malfeasance]

Visceral growth, especially intestines, is one of the first acromegalic effects from excess IGF for too long. rHGH is actually pretty useful for renewing intestines by thickening the walls, which makes nutrient absorption better, and blocks endotoxin from entering the bloodstream (aka "leaky gut"). Since endotoxin triggers systemic inflammation, when it's stopped aches and pains are reduced, mental clarity improves, immune function fights off illness more effectively, overall sense of wellbeing goes up. rHGH is used "off label" post intestinal surgery to speed healing.

Of course, "too much of a good thing" and you end up with Pulumbo gut.

So what is your theory on how some bodybuilders have successfully reduced it? Pakulski have surgery to excise some of his intestines?

 

[RockyP]

So what is your theory on how some bodybuilders have successfully reduced it? Pakulski have surgery to excise some of his intestines?

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these guys nowadays (not nick walker it seems) spend A LOT of time training vacuums and hitting their TVA via isometric core work. Not sure what's going on in that pic on the left.

 

[Ghoul]

So what is your theory on how some bodybuilders have successfully reduced it? Pakulski have surgery to excise some of his intestines?

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The internal pressure stretches the Diastasis Recti abdominal muscles apart at the weakest spot right in the center allowing the enlarged viscera to flop forward. While you're on you're back the viscera "guts" fall backward into the abdominal cavity where there's plenty of room, and they can go in laparoscopically to pull the muscles back together like a corset.

Not the greatest example, but not too many people revealing they had this procedure done to get rid of their protruding gut (increasingly men are getting it done after losing a lot of weight, getting fairly lean, but because their Diastatis Recti are stretched out their viscera are shifted forward presenting as a bubble gut):

 

[crispybacon!]

I was hesitant to order more gold tops due to the recent reports of cloudiness, although I’ve never had an issue in the past. I reached out to Opti several days ago and he confirmed he is still selling the same batch that is reflected in the latest Jano test on his site. He also confirmed he’s aware of and actively trying to get to the bottom of the cloudy recon issues, but said that isn’t consistent with other reports.

Based on this, I ordered a couple more kits and just got around to reconning a vial and decided to record the process. This vial was completely clear like all my previous ones, so as far as I can tell, the golds are still good to go! I’d probably jump on that sale while you can!


View: https://vimeo.com/1128555468?fl=pl&fe=sh

Just a quick follow-up. 24 hours after transferring the contents to my pen cartridge and still crystal clear. For what it’s worth, once I’ve transferred anything to one of these cartridges, I’ve never had it go cloudy. I don’t think the lack of air in the cartridge hurts, that’s for sure. And if you aren’t already using an insulin pen for your HGH, you should give it a try!

 

[thehogsters]

I guess you aren't aware the starting dose of pharma Tirz (Zepbound and Mounjaro) is 2.5mg (in fixed dose pens, so no option to for a smaller dose), used by millions, the overwhelming majority without problems, going up every four weeks by 2.5mg to 15mg max. Most end up reaching goal weight by 10mg and using that as maintainance.

First of all, as stated previously. Im talking about Reta not Triz. Secondly I obviously researched dossage on reta testing before using and recommended to my friend. Thirdly, I was hesitant to try it because of nausea and seeing what the recommended starting dossage did to my friend.
Semaglutide is the same way. My ex did two separate rounds of it from the doctors. She had constant nausea.
IMO these GLP drugs need to be started lower dossage and moved up slower with split dossage.

 

[Ghoul]

Just a quick follow-up. 24 hours after transferring the contents to my pen cartridge and still crystal clear. For what it’s worth, once I’ve transferred anything to one of these cartridges, I’ve never had it go cloudy. I don’t think the lack of air in the cartridge hurts, that’s for sure. And if you aren’t already using an insulin pin for your HGH, you should give it a try!
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I think those hold 3ml right?

 

[Juicedhead]

does opti reply to anyones dms on here? Whats the best way to contact him?

 

[crispybacon!]

I think those hold 3ml right?

Yes, just a tad over 3ml if you fill it completely.

 

[BlackVeil]

does opti reply to anyones dms on here? Whats the best way to contact him?

Email. Youll barely, if ever see him on the forums.

 

[CHIEF M]

been on them for a few months. working great

Yup good stuff how many IU’s you running ? I’m currently at 8iu

 

[Jtlittle88]

Currently in 10iu Opti feeling good

 

[CHIEF M]

Currently in 10iu Opti feeling good

Sick

 

[Juicedhead]

Currently in 10iu Opti feeling good

you using the opti grey tops?

 

[detroba]

ordered got pack within the week i know my money always safe with opti

 

[s2kallday]

I've got the 60iu green tops. They recon perfectly clear with 5mL.