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What is a good Level of e2 ?
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Eddie.
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40-50 is a good place to be. You could leave it to 62 zif you don't want to bother with AI but if you plan on raising the dose or/and add HCG then definitely you'll need to sort this out.
RockyP
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explodingHeart
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Why do you want E2 out of range? Why 62? Why not 20 which is in range?
Which influencer told you high E2 is good? Where is their proof?
And this is what I mean some people tell me it is ok and some want it in range? So how bad is a high level of e2 ?
Eddie.
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Is 40-50 considered out of range? The lab I'm usually doing bloodwork has a cap of 45. I don't want 20 because personally i feel shit and from the anecdotal reports I'm reading here most people tend to feel shit that low too.
62 is indeed a little high for my liking but if he hasn't plans to increase dose or add HCG then he could stay for his cycle, it's not a big deal for 2 more months.
Also, if you follow this board at all you would already know that I'm one of these guys who tend to preach the "normal" e2 levels, so next time don't come over me with that attitude.
Eddie.
Member
From 35 and upwards I'm feeling exactly the same, even at a 105 which was accidental due to HCG i had zero sides but I'm aiming at 40-50. There's no reason to let it go higher.
Eddie.
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Some guys believe it, some don't. I just don't believe in ratios for the simple reason. The ratio if you run a true TRT will result to very low e2 and if you run a big boy cycle and have 4000 or 6000 total test the e2 must be at 250+ so who's gonna really have to comply with the given ratio?
My belief is to always be inside the range OR slightly above, as some feel better there but to clear this out that means like 50pg/ml, not 80 or 120. There are guys that feel terrible at more than 30, despite the test dosage. You can aim for what your body wants without going ridiculously high.
Very high serves no purpose, no better IGF, no extra cardioprotective, no better libido etc. Just potential side effects with some of these being more serious than acne and tits, like higher chances of prostate cancer etc.
ganciodestro
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I always thought that high estrogen gave me a high libido… I was really uninformed back then. I didn’t do blood tests and I used 100 mg of test prop in a single injection every 5 days (pretty ridiculous, I know), plus 500 IU of HCG every other day. My goal was not physique but an insane libido.. Despite that, my libido was always amazing. I only did blood tests occasionally, and whenever I checked, my estrogen levels were around 25–30.
I also noticed that the day after the test prop injection (100 mg E5D), my libido dropped and I felt anxious, then 2th and 3th day del very very good (i think because my e2 dropped) Now I do things much better — I get bloodwork done, I use daily testosterone doses, and I educate myself as much as I can.
That said, my current consistent estradiol at 62 is confirming that I personally function better when my estrogen levels are on the lower side. Right now, I feel anxious all day — nothing too serious, but I feel agitated — and my sex drive is low (I can get an erection, but my penis feels less sensitive and orgasms are less satisfying).
I’m taking Adex every other day, and I notice that the day after taking it I feel better — my libido and mood improve — but by the following day I feel like before again. I think I’ll need to either increase the dose or adjust the timing or need to wait that adex accumulate in my body.
From all this, I’ve realized that the “optimal” estrogen level is really different for everyone.
I also noticed that the day after the test prop injection (100 mg E5D), my libido dropped and I felt anxious, then 2th and 3th day del very very good (i think because my e2 dropped) Now I do things much better — I get bloodwork done, I use daily testosterone doses, and I educate myself as much as I can.
That said, my current consistent estradiol at 62 is confirming that I personally function better when my estrogen levels are on the lower side. Right now, I feel anxious all day — nothing too serious, but I feel agitated — and my sex drive is low (I can get an erection, but my penis feels less sensitive and orgasms are less satisfying).
I’m taking Adex every other day, and I notice that the day after taking it I feel better — my libido and mood improve — but by the following day I feel like before again. I think I’ll need to either increase the dose or adjust the timing or need to wait that adex accumulate in my body.
From all this, I’ve realized that the “optimal” estrogen level is really different for everyone.
I feel great on 61 e2. But if I add hcg I need ai.
ganciodestro
Member
After a few weeks at 55–62 E2 (since I added hCG, because before that I was around 45), I can confirm that I feel better when I’m below 40 — probably closer to 30. I just need to figure out the right AI dose to get there. Right now I’m using 0.125 Adex EOD, but I don’t think it’s enough… I might try ED until my Asin arrives.
Get a blood work and then adjust the Dosis. There is no point I fussing the right amount of ai.
ganciodestro
Member
Yes I know im doing
You know that this kind of work will take some time, and in my opinion is a bit Boring lol
with driada you can go to olympia , olympia of fake gear
