BlackVeil
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Ive ran up to 20iu cutting. Fat was sliding off me daily.
No slin.
No slin.
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hGH Experimental LOG - Skyhigh Doses
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koast123
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How did you administer it? Splitting dose or bolus?
BlackVeil
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All in the morning. I would wake at 5:30am, fast til around 9 or 10am.
I was on a veeery heavy Tirz dose, so think that was the only reason I was getting away with not running slin.
Welcome to the Big Boy Club.
As John Meadows used to say, “The difference between an amateur and a professional bodybuilder is 18 IU of Serostim.”
There’s always a big debate that goes hand in hand with that statement — Serostim vs. Pharma vs. Generic HGH. The difference between the three is huge.
For me, Serostim has an uncanny ability to produce results with noticeably fewer side effects. If you’re running Pharma or Generic, keep a closer eye on the sides or ramp your dose up more gradually.
I tend to group Pharma and Generics together. When I take 4–5 IU of QSC HGH (which I had tested by Jano) or Omnitrope, I get solid results, but I also see about a 4% increase in water weight. Once I push up to 10 IU of either, I can’t handle the numb hands — I usually have to back it down to around 7 IU.
With Serostim, I ran 18 IU daily for a month, and it was incredible. I was literally growing by the day (and yes, I had a healthy stack of PEDs running alongside). Bolus at night before bed. Bloodwork stayed in range until I buried my estrogen with EQ — that’s when my LDL crept up to 120. I prefer to keep it around 70.
After a month at 18 IU, sleep became impossible because of hand pain from carpal tunnel. Still, I plan to run 18 IU again during prep when cardio volume is higher — it’s that effective.
I also agree that Tirz or Reta are really good for BG management. while taking HGH. I am using Reta right now, a month out from prep, so that when I increase HGH to 18, the glucose control is already there.
As John Meadows used to say, “The difference between an amateur and a professional bodybuilder is 18 IU of Serostim.”
There’s always a big debate that goes hand in hand with that statement — Serostim vs. Pharma vs. Generic HGH. The difference between the three is huge.
For me, Serostim has an uncanny ability to produce results with noticeably fewer side effects. If you’re running Pharma or Generic, keep a closer eye on the sides or ramp your dose up more gradually.
I tend to group Pharma and Generics together. When I take 4–5 IU of QSC HGH (which I had tested by Jano) or Omnitrope, I get solid results, but I also see about a 4% increase in water weight. Once I push up to 10 IU of either, I can’t handle the numb hands — I usually have to back it down to around 7 IU.
With Serostim, I ran 18 IU daily for a month, and it was incredible. I was literally growing by the day (and yes, I had a healthy stack of PEDs running alongside). Bolus at night before bed. Bloodwork stayed in range until I buried my estrogen with EQ — that’s when my LDL crept up to 120. I prefer to keep it around 70.
After a month at 18 IU, sleep became impossible because of hand pain from carpal tunnel. Still, I plan to run 18 IU again during prep when cardio volume is higher — it’s that effective.
I also agree that Tirz or Reta are really good for BG management. while taking HGH. I am using Reta right now, a month out from prep, so that when I increase HGH to 18, the glucose control is already there.
RockyP
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This thread is starting to look more and more like folks who are fishing for a “hey where can I get me some Serostim?” dM. Just go to the underground and register as a source. These dosages are asinine and guaranteed to give you heart problems in very short order. I really liked John Meadows too but I draw the line at taking PED advice from a guy who dropped dead.
Mushy404
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Agreed
You are absolutely right. John Meadows is dead and none of this should be taken as healthy advice. However there is a large and growing body of evidence that says that HGH is far safer, at the clinical dose, than other PEDs. Especially when taking into consideration the use of Tren.
You say Asinine on the doses. However the dose for treating wasting disease in AIDS patience is around 18 IUs.
For adults with HIV/AIDS-related wasting or cachexia, the FDA-approved human growth hormone (HGH) product is Serostim® (somatropin).
The typical clinical dosing regimen is:
- 0.1 mg/kg (up to a maximum of 6 mg) injected subcutaneously once daily.
- For many patients, this works out to around 4–6 mg per day, depending on body weight.
- The duration of therapy in clinical trials was usually 12 weeks, though some patients continued longer under supervision.
- Lower starting doses (e.g., 2–4 mg/day) may be used to reduce side effects such as edema, joint pain, or carpal tunnel symptoms.
- Liver function, glucose tolerance, and lipid profile are monitored regularly.
- If adverse effects occur, dose reduction to 0.1 mg/kg every other day is sometimes used.
HGH is approved specifically for AIDS-related wasting syndrome under medical supervision, and not for general fatigue or muscle enhancement. It should be prescribed and monitored by a physician experienced in HIV care and endocrinology.
Jackedjack
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Lets not forget that HIV patients on 18iu are not full of AAS. As we know they work in synergy for hypertrophy, so comparing HIV patients to AAS abusers is not legit measure
I was responding to the comment that taking 18iu of HGH is “asinine”.
Earthworm Jim
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Ghoul did a nice little mini dive somewhere into aids patients doses and the reason they can take that much without the side effects of a normal person is because they are lepthin deficient. Or maybe it was because they have excess lepthin. Lol
Many of the HIV patients that I have encountered are on a TRT dose of Test Cyp. 200mg every week. They get 4 kits of Seros a month and 10ml of Test Cyp every 10 weeks. Its why there's more Serostim available than there is USA Pharm Grade Test Cyp..
Its a small % of HIV patients that have scripts of Serostim. There's a checklist that is used when deciding if Serostim is going to be prescribed.
An even smaller % of those HIV patients getting Serostim have Anavar prescribed along with Test Cyp.
Slightly off topic but I have a sneaking suspicion HIV patients would gain just as much LBM by just giving them a shot of Deca a week that cost less than $100 a month than $7000 worth of Serostim but then pharma companies couldn't bill insurance companies $7K LOL. Looks like around 2-3kg of LBM in 12 weeks of treatment is the expected result, would think there are a whole lot of ways to accomplish that that don't cost what 18iu a day of GH does.
IndividualMan
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you forget that GH is great, and only a shot of deca (less than 250 as well, most likely) with nothing else added a week is for weenies.
Proud Pangolin
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HGH is worth it. Basiacally the consensus is: as much as you can afford
SnowyMiami
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Not a doctor but I do know that acromegaly is a constant release of GH. It's a lot different than boofing a vial before bed.
Ghoul
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Pretty sure the misfortunates who developed acromegaly from dose miscalculations weren’t hooked up to rHGH IVs.
