Long Off-Season to Classic D Class Weight Cap

[ChemBB]

My friends and I also tested so called 97% purity generics via blood assay and had totally different results than gh from doctors here.

Just so you know, this is normal.

I also did a GH blood test with a friend, using 2 vials from same kit.
Our results came back different:

Mine:


Theirs:

Runs about $1 USD per Iu. The prices in USA seemed pretty high last time I checked in comparison

That's insane. It's $8-12/iu for pharma here in USA as far as I've seen.

Really lucky, I'm paying $0.50/iu to run Chinese generics, I would love to be able to run pharma!

 

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Just so you know, this is normal.

I also did a GH blood test with a friend, using 2 vials from same kit.
Our results came back different:

Mine:
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Theirs:
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That's insane. It's $8-12/iu for pharma here in USA as far as I've seen.

Really lucky, I'm paying $0.50/iu to run Chinese generics, I would love to be able to run pharma!

Oh I mean that the results from pharma and generic were not the same on the serum test. Of course there are good generics but there are also bad ones and the price of generics here is not cheap because of the crackdowns. Companies who make generic dont want to ship domestic, so it makes pharma seem much more cost effective due to the consistent quality .

That’s crazy man $8-12 per iu is wayyyyy to expensive

 

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Upper 2
Weight 110.3/243.2lbs

CABLE STRAIGHT BAR BICEP CURLS
1x12 60kg
1x10+3 60kg

SUPERSET

CABLE STRAIGHT BAR TRICEP PUSHDOWN
1x12 65kg
10+5 65kg



SEATED TRICEP DIP
1x12 67.5
1x8 45kg



DB HAMMER CURLS
1x12 22.5
DROP SET 7-7-7 25-17.5-10



CROSSBODY SINGLE ARM CABLE LAT PULLDOWN
1x10 38.5kg
1x10 38.5kg



LATERAL MACHINE
1x10 5p
Dropset 4p-2p-1p

SUPERSET

STANDING CABLE REAR DELT FLYS

1x10 5p
4p-2p-1p

 

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Rest day: massage
Weight: 101.3kg/243.2lbs

12 weeks of weight gain done— from reverse, rebound and off season

From 225 to 243, 18lbs. Approximately 1.5lbs per week average.

August 28, September 31, November 2

At this point i think I can see where the biggest differences are going to be. Some body parts have clearly become more defined despite increasing body fat, from weeks 8-12. Some have also clearly seen an increase in size with relatively similar body fat distribution. It seems clear my torso— stomach and back is gaining the vast majority of the fat. Triceps, hanstrings and shoulders seem to be gaining second most fat. Biceps and chest haven’t gained much fat, and legs and glutes seem to be getting clearer.

 

[Eddie.]

That's a nice side by side collage, you can clearly see the differences. You have gained only a little fat from what i see, all the rest is glycogen and muscle. You have enough room left (for my preference) to push things.

I think chest is very dominant, not a bad thing obviously but watch out in case it continues to grow with the same pace to not overpower your physique. Hams are looking sick!

 

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That's a nice side by side collage, you can clearly see the differences. You have gained only a little fat from what i see, all the rest is glycogen and muscle. You have enough room left (for my preference) to push things.

I think chest is very dominant, not a bad thing obviously but watch out in case it continues to grow with the same pace to not overpower your physique. Hams are looking sick!

Yeah I agree, there’s enough room for sure, but as of now not sure if there is a need to push anything, kind of just growing comfortably right now. probably going to be looking at a pretty long growth phase. Interested to get into the grittier parts because the approach will be totally different than before so there’s a lot to learn once I really do need to push to grow

Thats a fair observation. Chest is not getting too many sets right now, about 8 sets per week. Would be pretty funny to have to do less if the imbalance became a problem lmao. One workout would be like 4 sets and looking at a bench press instead of 6

 

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Pull 1
Weight: 110.5/243.6

ASSISTED PULL UPS- 3 WAYS
Wide: 1x15 -31
Neutral 1x15 -31
Close: 1x13 -31



PULLOVER
1x10 140kg
1x10+5 140kg



BELT RDLS (raw)
1x8 300kg
1x10+5 260kg

No weightlifting belt felt pretty good, a lot more erector engagement from stabilizing and bracing without the weightlifting belt. I think I can tolerate more stimulus to the erectors without making my injury worse. It’s getting much stronger quickly.


SUPINATED GRIP LAT PULL DOWN
1x8 130kg
1x8 130kg



SEATED PLATE-LOADED ISO-LATERAL ROWS-
SINGLE ARM, NEUTRAL GRIP
1x10 55kg
1x20 RP 35kg



CHEST-SUPPORTED INCLINE
SINGLE ARM CABLE PULLDOWNS
1x10 73kg
5-5-5 50kg



45 DEGREE HIP EXTENSIONS/ROUNDED BACK EXTENSIONS
2x16 20,
1x15 20

 

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Push 1
weight: 110.2/243lbs

Weight leveled out, and some performance has been spotty. Sometimes I have trouble with overhead after hinging because it’s heavy as fuck and my erectors start freezing up while stabilizing.

Coach is very happy with results so far but It’s time to bump things up and keep the bulk moving. Adding a little food adding a very conservative progestin quantity.

This will be the real off season— rebound is done, now the weight gain probably will slow and the efforts to overload will probably be a legitimate battle since I’ve set all new PRs across the board.

Pretty normal diet and PED changes— add if and only if condition merits it.

SEATED CABLE CHEST FLYES

1x13 11p
5-5-5 6pp



CABLE SINGLE ARM LATERALS
1x11 55kg
10+5 55


CABLE SINGLE ARM BENT OVER REAR DELT FLYES
1x11 4p 22kg
1x10+5 4p22kg



PLATE-LOADED INCLINE PRESS MACHINE

1x10 260kg — last week was the same. Stalling, but last rep got a bit further before failing

RP 220kg



SEATED SMITH PRESS (SHOULDER-FOCUSED)
last week was 1x8120kg this week only 1x4 120kg. My anterior deltoids are fried.

RP20 60kg



FLAT BENCH DB FLY TO CRUSH PRESS
1x10 25kg
1x12 22.5kg



CABLE LATERALS- TIMED
1:00 AMRAP 1x28 30kg
1:00 AMRAP 1x29 30kg

 

[mimovic]

Push 1
weight: 110.2/243lbs

Weight leveled out, and some performance has been spotty. Sometimes I have trouble with overhead after hinging because it’s heavy as fuck and my erectors start freezing up while stabilizing.

Coach is very happy with results so far but It’s time to bump things up and keep the bulk moving. Adding a little food adding a very conservative progestin quantity.

This will be the real off season— rebound is done, now the weight gain probably will slow and the efforts to overload will probably be a legitimate battle since I’ve set all new PRs across the board.

Pretty normal diet and PED changes— add if and only if condition merits it.

SEATED CABLE CHEST FLYES

1x13 11p
5-5-5 6pp



CABLE SINGLE ARM LATERALS
1x11 55kg
10+5 55


CABLE SINGLE ARM BENT OVER REAR DELT FLYES
1x11 4p 22kg
1x10+5 4p22kg



PLATE-LOADED INCLINE PRESS MACHINE

1x10 260kg — last week was the same. Stalling, but last rep got a bit further before failing

RP 220kg



SEATED SMITH PRESS (SHOULDER-FOCUSED)
last week was 1x8120kg this week only 1x4 120kg. My anterior deltoids are fried.

RP20 60kg



FLAT BENCH DB FLY TO CRUSH PRESS
1x10 25kg
1x12 22.5kg



CABLE LATERALS- TIMED
1:00 AMRAP 1x28 30kg
1:00 AMRAP 1x29 30kg

On the incline press, the rest pause is the normal DC, failure, rest 20-30 secs, failure, rest 20-30secs, failure?

 

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On the incline press, the rest pause is the normal DC, failure, rest 20-30 secs, failure, rest 20-30secs, failure?

15 seconds rest 3-4 clusters

 

[mimovic]

15 seconds rest 3-4 clusters

Seems intense haha

I really like new intensifiers.

When you say 10+5 like in the single arm cable laterals, i suppose its just 1 rest pause, no?

 

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Seems intense haha

I really like new intensifiers.

When you say 10+5 like in the single arm cable laterals, i suppose its just 1 rest pause, no?

Yes that is correct

 

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Legs 1
Weight: 110.7kg/ 244lbs

ADDUCTORS SUPERSET ABDUCTORS
2S CONTRACTION- nautilus

2x10 170lbs
FST 7 7x7 70lbs

Superset

2x10 190
FST7 7x7 100


GLUTE KICKBACKS- M-Torture
2x10 65

HACK SQUAT— nautilus
Tempo
1x 8 260Kg/575lbs
RP 15s rest 180kg to 15

I dropped the weight, and fixed the tempo, tightened up the form. I want to minimize stress on knees, and fatiguing lower back with stability requirements of higher weight/bad form. 575 pounds is heavy enough to be a challenge, but moderate enough so I can load the muscles accurately.
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LEG PRESS- hammer strength
1x9 400kg/880lbs
cluster 3x5, 1x7, 10s rest 260kg

LEG EXTENSION- hammer strength plate loaded
1x11 150kg
TDS 1x11-7-5 150-100-60

SEATED HAMSTRING CURLS- nautilus
1x10 200lbs
5-5-5 140lbs

BULGARIANS
1x13 160lbs
AMRAP16 100

STANDING CALVES RAISES— hoist
1x15 220kg
Giant set 5-5-5-5-5-5-5 220 down to 45kg

 

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Upper 1
Weight 112kg/247lbs

New heaviest after 1 day of updating diet & Protocol. Pretty sizable increase in calories. Significantly larger than what most people recommend for basic off season changes, but still sensible i think considering how I handled the last increase.

Still seeing good linear progression on upper day

CABLE STRAIGHT BAR BICEP CURLS SUPERSET
CABLE STRAIGHT BAR TRICEP PUSHDOWN
1x10,12-65,65kg
5-5-5 50,55kg



SINGLE ARM TRICEP CABLE KICKBACKS
1x11 30kg
555-20kg



PREACHER CURLS- SINGLE ARM
1x12 32.5kg
TDS 7-7-7 30-20-10kg



SINGLE ARM TERES CABLE PULLDOWN
1x12 87lbs
rest pause 20



DB LATERALS SUPERSET
DB INCLINE BENCH PRONE REAR DELT FLYS
1x8 24.5kg, 24.5kg
TDS from 1x11-12-8 22kg down

 

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Legs 1
Weight: 110.7kg/ 244lbs

ADDUCTORS SUPERSET ABDUCTORS
2S CONTRACTION- nautilus

2x10 170lbs
FST 7 7x7 70lbs

Superset

2x10 190
FST7 7x7 100


GLUTE KICKBACKS- M-Torture
2x10 65

HACK SQUAT— nautilus
Tempo
1x 8 260Kg/575lbs
RP 15s rest 180kg to 15

I dropped the weight, and fixed the tempo, tightened up the form. I want to minimize stress on knees, and fatiguing lower back with stability requirements of higher weight/bad form. 575 pounds is heavy enough to be a challenge, but moderate enough so I can load the muscles accurately.
View attachment 359769

LEG PRESS- hammer strength
1x9 400kg/880lbs
cluster 3x5, 1x7, 10s rest 260kg

LEG EXTENSION- hammer strength plate loaded
1x11 150kg
TDS 1x11-7-5 150-100-60

SEATED HAMSTRING CURLS- nautilus
1x10 200lbs
5-5-5 140lbs

BULGARIANS
1x13 160lbs
AMRAP16 100

STANDING CALVES RAISES— hoist
1x15 220kg
Giant set 5-5-5-5-5-5-5 220 down to 45kg

When I saw all that weight on the Hack Squat, I thought for sure you were going to do the little half rep lack of depth squats everybody else seems to do o the Hack Squat, forgoing the main advantage of that piece of equipment, but, no, you got on down there.

Wow. Awesome job.

What's up with the video, though? It cuts out sections between the reps (like, I notice the pretty Chinese lady walking behind and turning her head to check you out, then she disappears and you start your next rep . . . ?

 

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When I saw all that weight on the Hack Squat, I thought for sure you were going to do the little half rep lack of depth squats everybody else seems to do o the Hack Squat, forgoing the main advantage of that piece of equipment, but, no, you got on down there.

Wow. Awesome job.

yeah I don’t get the half reps, exactly— It totally removes ankle mobility requirements, so better take advantage of it and get into the hole

What's up with the video, though? It cuts out sections between the reps (like, I notice the pretty Chinese lady walking behind and turning her head to check you out, then she disappears and you start your next rep . . . ?

Oh I gas out and have to catch my breath, so I cut a couple seconds of that, since when I watch it back I want to compare time under tension and rep speed as I overload the movement. Without cuts it’s about 20 more seconds of my cardio shitting the bed. Even though it’s a hack squat, bracing for that weight with the tempo gasses me out pretty bad while Im growing

 

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rest & fasted check in

Weight: fasted 112.7kg/ 248.5lbs *new high, going to sleep above 250 lbs
Blood pressure: 127/76
Heart rate: 71BPM
Blood glucose: 4.9mmol *Slight increase with diet. For the amount of calories added, this is totally fine.

Going to be adjusting and practicing ab and thigh on an angle. Straight forward is pretty much consistent, but I’m having trouble with setting legs then posing upper body at correct angle with torso, arms and hips.

Will also ask about BP meds, i can see my BP is slowly creeping up, which basically always happens after adding a progestin, even if it’s a small amount.

Discussed technical aspect of some of my lifts yesterday with coach, and right now training quality is at a place that will just need to be maintained as is. Im getting bigger so there’s no excuse not to push more weight,


Pretty happy with how gyno removal changed the front double bicep. Just need to fill out more and it will be a strong pose.

 

[mimovic]

rest & fasted check in

Weight: fasted 112.7kg/ 248.5lbs *new high, going to sleep above 250 lbs
Blood pressure: 127/76
Heart rate: 71BPM
Blood glucose: 4.9mmol *Slight increase with diet. For the amount of calories added, this is totally fine.

Going to be adjusting and practicing ab and thigh on an angle. Straight forward is pretty much consistent, but I’m having trouble with setting legs then posing upper body at correct angle with torso, arms and hips.

Will also ask about BP meds, i can see my BP is slowly creeping up, which basically always happens after adding a progestin, even if it’s a small amount.

Discussed technical aspect of some of my lifts yesterday with coach, and right now training quality is at a place that will just need to be maintained as is. Im getting bigger so there’s no excuse not to push more weight,

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Pretty happy with how gyno removal changed the front double bicep. Just need to fill out more and it will be a strong pose.
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Nice job so far, brother.

I suppose you added Ment, as you said previously you liked it, no?

 

[Eddie.]

rest & fasted check in

Weight: fasted 112.7kg/ 248.5lbs *new high, going to sleep above 250 lbs
Blood pressure: 127/76
Heart rate: 71BPM
Blood glucose: 4.9mmol *Slight increase with diet. For the amount of calories added, this is totally fine.

Going to be adjusting and practicing ab and thigh on an angle. Straight forward is pretty much consistent, but I’m having trouble with setting legs then posing upper body at correct angle with torso, arms and hips.

Will also ask about BP meds, i can see my BP is slowly creeping up, which basically always happens after adding a progestin, even if it’s a small amount.

Discussed technical aspect of some of my lifts yesterday with coach, and right now training quality is at a place that will just need to be maintained as is. Im getting bigger so there’s no excuse not to push more weight,

View attachment 360161View attachment 360160
Pretty happy with how gyno removal changed the front double bicep. Just need to fill out more and it will be a strong pose.
View attachment 360162

You look good man! Your side shots are all great, back double can take a little tweaking like your wrists i don't think you need to drop them that down, it takes away the tension from your biceps and somewhat from the lats. At least in my case.

The abs and thighs you re showing in the picture is very good IMO, and the front double.

BP is still good, not optimal but deffo not alarming. Some guys would cope with that but it's wise to add some low dose med to take care of it. What's your way to go for bp med? Telmisartan or something else?

 

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Nice job so far, brother.

I suppose you added Ment, as you said previously you liked it, no?

Not yet, saving the big guns for later. With my previous coach we would add it as when we started the full off season basically, but right now the strategy for PEDs will be totally different