Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)

There are bad reviews about the products themselves, or just about shipping and communication. So far, I've only seen negative reviews about NPP and BU600 because of the strange color. Otherwise, there was nothing wrong with them, right?
 
There are bad reviews about the products themselves, or just about shipping and communication. So far, I've only seen negative reviews about NPP and BU600 because of the strange color. Otherwise, there was nothing wrong with them, right?
If you want to age prematurely, have systemic inflammation, other long term health issues from injecting unspecified oxidized derivatives of aas compounds, then everything is fine. It’s totally ok to accept low quality product in 2025. Although people might tell you color variation is normal, that applies within normal limits. These are going past the norms during a time where aas raws are coming in and showing lower purity than normal.

People can choose to accept the weak (lie) excuse of these extremes as “color variation”, but to write off the affects of frequently injecting an oxidized product is at best naive.
 
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There are bad reviews about the products themselves, or just about shipping and communication. So far, I've only seen negative reviews about NPP and BU600 because of the strange color. Otherwise, there was nothing wrong with them, right?
Also floaters in Cyp 250. I have some on the way so I hope I dont get that batch. I have yet to have a bad experience with this source. 4 for 4 hopefully going on 5. I’m ordering again next week lol. Just saying all of these complaints about shipping times and quality control are killing the vibe
 
Also floaters in Cyp 250. I have some on the way so I hope I dont get that batch. I have yet to have a bad experience with this source. 4 for 4 hopefully going on 5. I’m ordering again next week lol. Just saying all of these complaints about shipping times and quality control are killing the vibe
WWB could own the mistakes and fix the vibe. It’s all cheap and easy really to address if they choose to
 
Ive been using WWB for a while now, before the flood of SSA/SRY broccoli heads and peptide karens.....no issues at all.

That said- that NPP looks fucked up. I have some U600 otw and I hope it doesn't look like orange juice
 
Ive been using WWB for a while now, before the flood of SSA/SRY broccoli heads and peptide karens.....no issues at all.

That said- that NPP looks fucked up. I have some U600 otw and I hope it doesn't look like orange juice
Seeing Axle, WWB and a few vendors (who rejected their raw and chose not to make them into product) have problems makes me wonder if low quality raws are starting to emerge as finished product in the market now. I'd suspect lots of these do contain the compounds they claim to, but if the raws were low purity, what other degraded and oxidized compounds are coming. Think it's going to need caution for all vendors until a steady flow of high purity raws becomes the norm again.
 
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Seeing Axle, WWB and a few vendors (who rejected their raw and chose not to make them into product) have problems makes me wonder if low quality raws are starting to emerge as finished product in the market now. I'd suspect lots of these do contain the compounds they claim to, but if the raws were low purity, what other degraded and oxidized compounds are coming. Think it's going to need caution for all vendors until a steady flow of high purity raws becomes the norm again.
Makes sense to me. I'd be pretty bummed to get a kit looking like that.
 
Seeing Axle, WWB and a few vendors (who rejected their raw and chose not to make them into product) have problems makes me wonder if low quality raws are starting to emerge as finished product in the market now. I'd suspect lots of these do contain the compounds they claim to, but if the raws were low purity, what other degraded and oxidized compounds are coming. Think it's going to need caution for all vendors until a steady flow of high purity raws becomes the norm again.

Yeah but some oils are hepius old stock so not sure if its a raws issue or we are seeing old vials that are degraded/oxidized.
 
Yeah but some oils are hepius old stock so not sure if its a raws issue or we are seeing old vials that are degraded/oxidized.
Could be. I can only speculate. Either way, not acceptable to be pushing to the consumer and telling us to just send it. I'm used to WWB being a bit better than that.
 
Any orders made around 10/30-11/01 CN-USA made its way to 1 of the Int sorting facilities via USPS yet?
Not mine. Ordered from US warehouse 10/30, got tracking number saying label created on 11/2, asked Cavan why no updates on 11/10, was told order would not be coming from US warehouse even though I paid US warehouse prices, but from China. Was told the "interception service" would try to return the package to the China warehouse, then order would be shipped from US warehouse. Was told I'd be refunded the US/China price difference if China package delivered. Tracking number still only says label created.
 
How do you propose to determine whether color variation is a harm that needs to be reduced or avoided vs or fear mongering or broscience?
I don't for a second suggest that i have the answers to that.

I do resent any implication that we should be acceping cloudy piss colored NPP as normal as being bro science or fear mongering though. (edit: Added: whilst the source isn't honest about the color variance and batches)

At some point, when there isn't the ability to test, a certain level of common sense and caution should prevail.

The possible causes of yellowed gear seem fairly well established, the possibilities of harm seem fairly well established.

In a harm reduction forum, why on earth wouldn't we demand better?

Edit2: Sorry if i sound defensive. I'd have been seriously pissed if they'd sent me that NPP and then bullshitted me. I'm trying help not let it stand.
 
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