Low dose deca- water retention question

Mfras

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Howdy!

First my question for the TLDR crowd, then detailed info for the harm reduction and scientist crowd to pick on me or answer better given more info:

On 80mg/week Deca (as an experiment in old fart joint comfort) would you expect to see water weight come on? How much and after how much time?

Details and background:
6’ 3” 259lbs total, 210 lean mass 47yo
Training sleep and diet are dialed in- 1950cals, 220g protein, 5 day split, walking.

Water intake is ok I usually hit .75-1.25 gal/day. Tracking lifts, dexa, bloodwork, body measurements. Recent bloods are better than ever. 25-30lbs left to cut then maintainance/true TRT health cruise planned for the summer. Lost 115lbs fat and gained 20lbs lean mass in the past 2-3 years of steady discipline, 90% just on TRT, recently went to a mild stack to hopefully continue to recomp as things get harder under 20%bf. Still mild but a little wild for me- I prioritize health but only plan on around 20ish weeks on this stack. Have experience with managing mild higher blasts, including test, mast, and NPP in the past. Not expecting miracles still just looking for 1-1.25lbs fat/week and hoping to continue to grow or at least not lose strength if possible while chasing my leanest ever.

Current stack about a month in:
Split mon weds fri:
300 test Cyp
100 mast

Split Tues Fri
80 deca (new only 2.5 weeks in)
2.5 reta

Split AM PM
4iu GH

I had like two odd days of sneakers feeling tight since I started GH but I think it was salt & water intake related- no other water sides, wedding ring still loose. Sleep like a baby.

I’ve experienced like 10lbs water on and offboarding NPP but have no deca experience and this is such a low dose (but hopefully high enough to notice joint improvement if not much else?) and from what I’ve read deca takes forever before you notice anything even at true cycle dosages? Same with on cycle water retention?

So now that I wrote a boring novel about myself in case details would be helpful to way smarter and more experienced folks. I’d love to hear anybody’s experience with water weight on different doses of deca. Obviously we’re all different but it can be helpful to hear about other people’s results, and I’m curious plus searching didn’t turn up anything on this specific topic.

Thanks!
 
definately the gh
well probably
So I know GH is known for water retention related sides- I don’t seem to really be having any. My cutting has been progressing normally as far as the bathroom scale goes- no bloodwork since I started GH about three and a half weeks ago and did two months tesamorelin before that- Igf-1 went up to 306 or something high normal.

Really my question is more because NPP had such a dramatic water retention on cycle- 10 lbs came then went with the drugs, gained 18 total ended up keeping 7 lean muscle.

So since deca is just the long ester version but is supposed to be sneaky coming on I wonder if I will have sneaky water weight onboarding? Or maybe 80mg is too low to notice? Gonna give it a while to settle in, maybe bloods and dexa after 6-7 weeks to see…
 
Howdy!

First my question for the TLDR crowd, then detailed info for the harm reduction and scientist crowd to pick on me or answer better given more info:

On 80mg/week Deca (as an experiment in old fart joint comfort) would you expect to see water weight come on? How much and after how much time?

Details and background:
6’ 3” 259lbs total, 210 lean mass 47yo
Training sleep and diet are dialed in- 1950cals, 220g protein, 5 day split, walking.

Water intake is ok I usually hit .75-1.25 gal/day. Tracking lifts, dexa, bloodwork, body measurements. Recent bloods are better than ever. 25-30lbs left to cut then maintainance/true TRT health cruise planned for the summer. Lost 115lbs fat and gained 20lbs lean mass in the past 2-3 years of steady discipline, 90% just on TRT, recently went to a mild stack to hopefully continue to recomp as things get harder under 20%bf. Still mild but a little wild for me- I prioritize health but only plan on around 20ish weeks on this stack. Have experience with managing mild higher blasts, including test, mast, and NPP in the past. Not expecting miracles still just looking for 1-1.25lbs fat/week and hoping to continue to grow or at least not lose strength if possible while chasing my leanest ever.

Current stack about a month in:
Split mon weds fri:
300 test Cyp
100 mast

Split Tues Fri
80 deca (new only 2.5 weeks in)
2.5 reta

Split AM PM
4iu GH

I had like two odd days of sneakers feeling tight since I started GH but I think it was salt & water intake related- no other water sides, wedding ring still loose. Sleep like a baby.

I’ve experienced like 10lbs water on and offboarding NPP but have no deca experience and this is such a low dose (but hopefully high enough to notice joint improvement if not much else?) and from what I’ve read deca takes forever before you notice anything even at true cycle dosages? Same with on cycle water retention?

So now that I wrote a boring novel about myself in case details would be helpful to way smarter and more experienced folks. I’d love to hear anybody’s experience with water weight on different doses of deca. Obviously we’re all different but it can be helpful to hear about other people’s results, and I’m curious plus searching didn’t turn up anything on this specific topic.

Thanks!
In my experience you're more likely to experience water retention issues from the GH than you are from the deca at that dose. I did a similar thing to you as far as deca use goes except I dosed at 100mg per week. I didn't notice any water weight issues at that dose. I ran it for 20 weeks and experienced 0 drop in weight after coming off keeping everything else the same.
 
So I know GH is known for water retention related sides- I don’t seem to really be having any. My cutting has been progressing normally as far as the bathroom scale goes- no bloodwork since I started GH about three and a half weeks ago and did two months tesamorelin before that- Igf-1 went up to 306 or something high normal.

Really my question is more because NPP had such a dramatic water retention on cycle- 10 lbs came then went with the drugs, gained 18 total ended up keeping 7 lean muscle.

So since deca is just the long ester version but is supposed to be sneaky coming on I wonder if I will have sneaky water weight onboarding? Or maybe 80mg is too low to notice? Gonna give it a while to settle in, maybe bloods and dexa after 6-7 weeks to see…
How much NPP were you running?
 
Hey- thanks for the real world info. Ten lbs on and off with NPP is around 150-200 for me but also ran test at 400-450 and mast 100-150.
Oh and I just did an inbody at the gym- those are a wild ass guess compared to dexa which is only an educated guess, but my extracellular water to total body water ratio was slightly higher than in range at .396- natty I’m .387

So I’m holding some water, but no real sides from it- no pitting edema in my calves, wedding ring fits the same, no moon face or anything. But also I’m 19% bf at the moment so it’s not like I have a crazy defined 6 pack that got blurry
 
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