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Ok, other problems aside, to be fair that’s just not enough BAC for 40iu (~13mg).

No pharma formulation goes above 15iu (5mg) /ml concentration of rHGH without additional ingredients to prevent aggregation.

UGL only uses mannitol as a filler/excipient.

It’s nice that SSA looks clear with the same amount of water (but it’s almost certain the aggregates are there too, just sub-visible size).

36-40iu vials need 2.5ml, better yet 3ml to prevent aggregation, visible or otherwise.

Nordotropin has one of the highest concentrations available, 30iu (10mg) /ml in their 90iu (30mg) pen, and you can see the complex recipe they have to use to make an aggregate free, stable rHGH.

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Are you intentionally ignoring that fact that Norditropin is also pre-mixed and its formula has to accommodate remaining shelf-stable in liquid form? Because that probably explains why they don't use the same formula as something like Genotropin much better than your concentration concerns.
 
That guy is still scamming ppl Jesus… I’ve seen ppl lose $500 but $1700 Jesus gotta confirm things before you throw that kinda money around…
QSC posted screenshots showing you claim to run a fake deus pharma website, are you not scamming people on that site?
 
Oh man. Is this on top of the fake QHP?
You’re following my other scam from QHP? Well if I can help 1 person not get scammed then getting laughed at here is worth it. No, the $1700 is combined $1200 to Fake “peptideyuraa” and $500 to fake “QHP(main account)”.

I feel like I got punched in the stomach.

Moving forward, safe to place an order with telegram handle “peptideYura”?
 
You’re following my other scam from QHP? Well if I can help 1 person not get scammed then getting laughed at here is worth it. No, the $1700 is combined $1200 to Fake “peptideyuraa” and $500 to fake “QHP(main account)”.

I feel like I got punched in the stomach.

Moving forward, safe to place an order with telegram handle “peptideYura”?

Damn not once but twice that sucks.

I would 100% double or triple check everything next time is legit before sending funds

Or if your going to send funds to the wrong person next time again i could just send you my bitcoin address lol
 
You’re following my other scam from QHP? Well if I can help 1 person not get scammed then getting laughed at here is worth it. No, the $1700 is combined $1200 to Fake “peptideyuraa” and $500 to fake “QHP(main account)”.

I feel like I got punched in the stomach.

Moving forward, safe to place an order with telegram handle “peptideYura”?
Nobody is laughing at you, nobody wants to see other people get scammed. You have to read, the first thing you should learn (I guess you learned the hard way) is that the contact information for every source is on the first page of their thread. Meaning where you are right now, go to the page number and type in 1 for the first page. The contact information will be there for every source
 
QSC posted screenshots showing you claim to run a fake deus pharma website, are you not scamming people on that site?
Huh I’m not scamming anyone and that’s not even me. I’m a pro athlete not a reseller lol.

Plus I feel bad for this guy.. peptideyuraa has made a fortune this year. Hope karma gets him.
 
Are you intentionally ignoring that fact that Norditropin is also pre-mixed and its formula has to accommodate remaining shelf-stable in liquid form? Because that probably explains why they don't use the same formula as something like Genotropin much better than your concentration concerns.

Probably huh? I’ll defer to you since I have no doubt you put a lot of research into that claim before coming out swinging.

So, according to you, Norditropin only uses anti-aggregation ingredients because it comes in liquid form, not because it’s a high concentration rHGH (36iu /ml). Genotropin, which is the same high concentration, comes as lyophilized powder, just like our UGL vials. It’s not reconstituted until right before use, so Genos won’t need anti-aggregation ingredients, because that’s not a real concern, and I “intentionally ignored Genotropin” because it wouldn’t support my claim that pharma doesn’t go higher than 15iu/ml with normal rHGH formulas, to avoid aggregation, and neither should we.

Let’s have a look.

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“Glycine”?

Let’s hit the biopharma textbooks together and see if we can figure out why Pfizer put that in a lyophilized rHGH powder.

We’ll start with the classic protein drug excipient ingredient chart:

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Hmm, maybe that’s a mistake. Aggregation of rHGH can’t be a real problem since you “probably” reconstitute 40iu with 1ml all the time and it’s “perfectly clear”, which is why you’re so bent out of shape that I’m suggesting that’s not a good idea. We better double check.

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Nope, looks like it’s there to prevent aggregation.

I should probably stop before I tell you more things you don’t want to hear. Like how that “clear” 36iu vial reconstituted in a couple drops of Amazon’s cheapest tap water and rubbing alcohol “reconstitution solution”, unfiltered, and filled with a massive amount of sub-visible aggregates acts like a rHGH “vaccine”, increasing the number of antibodies that neutralize rHGH with every injection, so it slowly becomes less effective over time. “Immunogenicity”. An immunity against rHGH that once built, can take years to, or may never, go away.

Not that that’s real enough rHGH brands advertise that they have lower antibody rates vs competitors or anything….

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“RIA” is is the level of rHGH antibodies
“Inhibition” is loss of rHGH effectiveness

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When response to rHGH weakens from high antibodies, they try taking a break or changing brands. Since rHGH molecules are the same, the only real difference between brands likely to explain why a brand change might reduce immune response is because some formulations have fewer aggregates than others. Since aggregates form AFTER reconstitution, the main difference has to be that some formulas do a better job of preventing aggregation.

Or just don’t worry about all this. Follow pharma’s lead, and reconstitute UGL rHGH with the same 15iu/ml limit as pharma does. Maybe even filter to reduce aggregates further so the risk of immunogenicity (and many other long term hazards from contaminants) can be avoided.

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Huh I’m not scamming anyone and that’s not even me. I’m a pro athlete not a reseller lol.
I’m a professional athlete, when the results come back from the bun
Anyways I will send this bunk qsc hgh off to prove it’s garbage.

Im a pro athlete and here on out won’t be using qsc again.
We get it bro. You’re a “pro athlete”. So are we. Chill…
 
Is the telegram handle: peptideyuraa
A scammer?

Just realized I sent btc to peptideyuraa. FML
That same mf almost got my ass well when I made my first order. Not even sure how I started communicating with him as I copy pasted the telegram. Decided to double check when I saw how incessant he was for an order. I feel sick for you… sorry to hear that man.
 
Do a search here and you will find people that had the same problem and it was from the ph of the water. Or ask ChatGPT.
Or don't do either and blame the product not how do you use it.
AI
"No, kisspeptin does not necessarily need an alkaline pH to dissolve; solubility depends on its specific amino acid composition and charge
. Peptides like kisspeptin are often more soluble at near-neutral pH rather than at acidic or highly alkaline pHs"
 
AI
"No, kisspeptin does not necessarily need an alkaline pH to dissolve; solubility depends on its specific amino acid composition and charge
. Peptides like kisspeptin are often more soluble at near-neutral pH rather than at acidic or highly alkaline pHs"
Kisspeptin is like ARA. Need certain PH to dissolve.
 
AI
"No, kisspeptin does not necessarily need an alkaline pH to dissolve; solubility depends on its specific amino acid composition and charge
. Peptides like kisspeptin are often more soluble at near-neutral pH rather than at acidic or highly alkaline pHs"
This is why the world is so fucking stupid, just chatgbt this chatgbt that instead of doing actual research themselves.
 
Probably huh? I’ll defer to you since I have no doubt you put a lot of research into that claim before coming out swinging.

So, according to you, Norditropin only uses anti-aggregation ingredients because it comes in liquid form, not because it’s a high concentration rHGH (36iu /ml). Genotropin, which is the same high concentration, comes as lyophilized powder, just like our UGL vials. It’s not reconstituted until right before use, so Genos won’t need anti-aggregation ingredients, because that’s not a real concern, and I “intentionally ignored Genotropin” because it wouldn’t support my claim that pharma doesn’t go higher than 15iu/ml with normal rHGH formulas, to avoid aggregation, and neither should we.

Let’s have a look.

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“Glycine”?

Let’s hit the biopharma textbooks together and see if we can figure out why Pfizer put that in a lyophilized rHGH powder.

We’ll start with the classic protein drug excipient ingredient chart:

View attachment 362101

Hmm, maybe that’s a mistake. Aggregation of rHGH can’t be a real problem since you “probably” reconstitute 40iu with 1ml all the time and it’s “perfectly clear”, which is why you’re so bent out of shape that I’m suggesting that’s not a good idea. We better double check.

View attachment 362102

Nope, looks like it’s there to prevent aggregation.

I should probably stop before I tell you more things you don’t want to hear. Like how that “clear” 36iu vial reconstituted in a couple drops of Amazon’s cheapest tap water and rubbing alcohol “reconstitution solution”, unfiltered, and filled with a massive amount of sub-visible aggregates acts like a rHGH “vaccine”, increasing the number of antibodies that neutralize rHGH with every injection, so it slowly becomes less effective over time. “Immunogenicity”. An immunity against rHGH that once built, can take years to, or may never, go away.

Not that that’s real enough rHGH brands advertise that they have lower antibody rates vs competitors or anything….

View attachment 362105View attachment 362106

“RIA” is is the level of rHGH antibodies
“Inhibition” is loss of rHGH effectiveness

View attachment 362107

When response to rHGH weakens from high antibodies, they try taking a break or changing brands. Since rHGH molecules are the same, the only real difference between brands likely to explain why a brand change might reduce immune response is because some formulations have fewer aggregates than others. Since aggregates form AFTER reconstitution, the main difference has to be that some formulas do a better job of preventing aggregation.

Or just don’t worry about all this. Follow pharma’s lead, and reconstitute UGL rHGH with the same 15iu/ml limit as pharma does. Maybe even filter to reduce aggregates further so the risk of immunogenicity (and many other long term hazards from contaminants) can be avoided.

View attachment 362110
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Damn, thanks for the deep dive. Appreciate it
 
will hyb go back to selling oils?

Not if they don’t want to end up like QSC, SSA etc….

We need a good China (aka “cheap”) rHGH supplier that’s not putting themselves at risk of getting busted by selling controlled drugs. WWB, GGB, and others can handle oils.

Most of the other peptide only sellers won’t touch rHGH or have stupid prices.

Especially now that Tracy’s decided selling out of product a few times means he must have a “premium” product and not a “value” seller any more, jacking up prices by 30%.
 
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