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[ackmack78]

That’ll be a good indicator. Just out of curiosity, have you done a previous serum test using the same method?

The GH from the night before will be long gone so no interference from that.

I have 2 years ago with a batch of Opti orange tops. 10iu in the bicep, the only difference was the bloods were drawn 2 hours post injection instead of 3 hours so not sure how much if a difference that would make.

I pulled a really high score of 43.7, I'm not sure how that would factor into the results I get for this test. Like if I pull a 20 what does that mean if anything in relation to the 43?

 

[Ghoul]

I have 2 years ago with a batch of Opti orange tops. 10iu in the bicep, the only difference was the bloods were drawn 2 hours post injection instead of 3 hours so not sure how much if a difference that would make.

I pulled a really high score of 43.7, I'm not sure how that would factor into the results I get for this test. Like if I pull a 20 what does that mean if anything in relation to the 43?

To compare apples to apples, roughly, add 30% to the result from the sample taken at 3 hours.

 

[ackmack78]

To compare apples to apples, roughly, add 30% to the result from the sample taken at 3 hours.

You think so huh? All the boards say IM it should be peaking at 3 hours and higher than the 2 hr mark. But that's just bro science repeated ad nauseum I know you know more

 

[Ghoul]

You think so huh? All the boards say IM it should be peaking at 3 hours and higher than the 2 hr mark. But that's just bro science repeated ad nauseum I know you know more

It’s surprisingly difficult to get a solid answer on when peak blood concentration is reached. Pharma / science doesn’t care that much, focusing more on whether the treatment works as well subQ, since normies really don’t like IM shots. The studies show IM max serum from 1-6 hours. So claiming 2, or 3 isn’t unreasonable.

But here’s why I lean faster peak applies to us:

The highest theoretical GH serum test result from 10iu injected IM should be about 50 for most people.

Your 2 hour test is close to that. In fact, from the results I’ve seen here, the highest results seem to be at 1-2 hours, and by 3 hours numbers that I remember are lower.

The tests showing 3 hour peaks are glutes, a slower absorbing muscle vs delts.

The fatter the subjects the slower time to peak. Faster peaks in lean subjects. .

That’s about all of my reasoning.

Also any ambiguity is your fault for being an hour late for the last test, lol.

What I am fairly certain of is 1 hour after peak, drop in GH serum test results should be around 30%.

Here’s a cheat sheet on the minutia that affects time to peak, if you’re weird enough to be into this kind of thing:

 

[AlexDavis43]

I have 2 years ago with a batch of Opti orange tops. 10iu in the bicep, the only difference was the bloods were drawn 2 hours post injection instead of 3 hours so not sure how much if a difference that would make.

I pulled a really high score of 43.7, I'm not sure how that would factor into the results I get for this test. Like if I pull a 20 what does that mean if anything in relation to the 43?

You're good my man

Average is typically in the 30's

If it came in at ~10, I'd suspect bunk GH or you messed up the blood draw timing (which seems unlikely)

If it came in significantly above 40, I'd suspect overdosed GH

It's called the "quick & dirty GH test" for a reason → it's not super accurate; just a cheap & quick way to see if you have good GH

 

[ackmack78]

You're good my man

Average is typically in the 30's

If it came in at ~10, I'd suspect bunk GH or you messed up the blood draw timing (which seems unlikely)

If it came in significantly above 40, I'd suspect overdosed GH

It's called the "quick & dirty GH test" for a reason → it's not super accurate; just a cheap & quick way to see if you have good GH

Ya that's really all im doing it for just to see. I didn't buy enough to justify sending it off to jano

 

[Docsunshine23]

Stalker lol jk keeping the stash deep man. I supply many families preparing for apocolyps

I feel that. And in today’s time probably safer bet to place many many smaller orders than a few massive ones like we could this time last year

 

[Nick925]

Just received my order today start to finish 4 days thanks

 

[Necessary Evil]

I decided to run a GH serum test on the current batch of 36iu purple top GH that tested at 41iu from QSC. I counted each vial as 40iu & put 10iu IM in my bicep at 6am and got my blood drawn fasted at 915.

I'll post the results when I get them back. I did take my normal 15iu GH shot sub q last night at 9pm. I've been on 10iu of optis gray tops nightly since September & just added in the extra 5iu nightly of these purple tops when I got them on Tuesday.

For anyone who cares I reconstituted the vial with 3ml of Bac and injected 76 units IM to get the 10 units

I did a similar lab test a month or two ago from an HGH batch (10 IU blue tops) that is 2 year old. The results came at 40.1 mg/ml, which were perfect.

You can view my post history for further details.

QSCs HGH is always quality.

 

[zgr1m]

Would you guys recommend WWB or QSC for Peptides?

 

[bubba618]

Would you guys recommend WWB or QSC for Peptides?

I think we'd all recommend you read the rules you agreed to when signing up for an account here and make a post in the New Member Introduction Thread before asking to be spoon-fed suppliers.

 

[keepbashing]

Hey don't be a gatekeeper! @bubba618
We recommend SSA for sure! @zgr1m

 

[abaddon616]

Anyone send the Anavar 70mg to Janoshik yet? I’m not seeing anything on a search here. All I'm seeing is QSC results. Im sitting on a pile of them and will send samples for testing and variance.

I would like to see someone else send a few out for testing but I feel like Tracy has been pretty transparent with results from each batch they receive so I'm confident the QSC tests are accurate. One should never assume though I suppose.

 

[ackmack78]

I did a similar lab test a month or two ago from an HGH batch (10 IU blue tops) that is 2 year old. The results came at 40.1 mg/ml, which were perfect.

You can view my post history for further details.

QSCs HGH is always quality.

Thanks a lot man I looked up your results. Good stuff, I'll post mine when I get it back

 

[zgr1m]

Hey don't be a gatekeeper! @bubba618
We recommend SSA for sure! @zgr1m

I thought SSA is still unavailable

 

[jackschitt123]

Order placed Friday November 15th.
Tracking received Saturday November 15th.
Package delivered Friday November 21st.

US domestic.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I thought SSA is still unavailable

he was playing with you

 

[dcfreak]

IGF causes spinal discs to absorb additional water, expanding them, boosting (more often restoring age related atrophied/lost ) height.

IGF Signaling in Intervertebral Disc Health and Disease - PMC

Low back pain (LBP) is a common musculoskeletal symptom, which brings a lot of pain and economic loss to patients. One of the most common causes of LBP is intervertebral disc degeneration (IVDD). However, pathogenesis is still debated, and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This might be a dumb question...but I have 3 herniated discs....IGF would possibly help?

 

[Ghoul]

This might be a dumb question...but I have 3 herniated discs....IGF would possibly help?

Possibly. There are a number of small animal and human studies that suggest rHGH speeds spinal injury healing. If the discs are ruptured, the (very slow) healing process relies heavily on collagen synthesis which healthy levels of GH promote.

There’s one animal study that showed long exposure to excessive (supra-physiologic) levels of IGF-1 promotes disc degeneration.

So in the absence of clear answers, it’s worth keeping that possibility in mind.

With the thin evidence I think the most logical path would be IGF-1 as high as possible but under Z score 3 to maximize potential healing benefit, disc hydration, without adding risk of making your discs worse.

 

[dcfreak]

Possibly. There are a number of small animal and human studies that suggest rHGH speeds spinal injury healing. If the discs are ruptured, the (very slow) healing process relies heavily on collagen synthesis which healthy levels of GH promote.

There’s one animal study that showed long exposure to excessive (supra-physiologic) levels of IGF-1 promotes disc degeneration.

So in the absence of clear answers, it’s worth keeping that possibility in mind.

With the thin evidence I think the most logical path would be IGF-1 as high as possible but under Z score 3 to maximize potential healing benefit, disc hydration, without adding risk of making your discs worse.

I appreciate your response, brother. Thank you.