dcfreak
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Some of yall are some real ballers to buy it for 3x the price
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Raiders789
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No you cant filter it out but if anything I think the EO can be better for pip if you don't have a reaction to it.
I've been using StromUSC test cyp and mast(which I'm pretty sure has EO in it? I heard all their products have EO but I'm not 100% sure on that) for the past few months and my hsCRP has been consistently <1 and have had essentially no pip. I snagged some WWB primo recently which I know has EO in it along with some of Primal's so I'm gonna compare the two in terms of viscocity + pip + how they effect my inflammatory markers. I've used primals primo100 they were selling a few months ago and had 0 pip from that, but then again I don't think ppl have issues with primo at that low of a conc regardless.
RockyP
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I’m told there is yet still another level of resale after that! Long live boldenone!!!
Oldhand
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If I read everything right this is about primo… yeah it’s off the menu for me atm. I have a few months supply left but then I’ll be moving on.
Primo is good and all but just not cost effective right now.
I would be interested to hear your results.
I havent tried strom or hepius yet but i hear good things.
SwolieGuacamole
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He already answered this. By saying he has the raws, but didn’t test them.
Whether that’s the truth…..GCMS will tell it.
Raiders789
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Yes I'll 100% post them -
I'm planning to hop back on cycle in a week, I've got a lot of Primals primo100 left and I'll prob kill some of that first as I ease into the cycle, then what I think I'm gonna do is run only WWB's primo200 for like a 6ish weeks, get bloodwork, then run primals pirmo200 for like another 6ish and get bloodwork. Maybe I'll make a thread or something but I'll keep yall updated if youre interested! I'm curious to see how things change (if they do at all) with the EO-based WWB primo and the BA/BB only primal oil.
RockyP
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Would be interested in these results especially hsCRP
Do you think you or others on the board would believe him if he said no?
They are all already suspiciously questioning him from the get go. His best bet is to let the reports do the talking. Feels like some of you are just waiting to knitpick his messages lol
He emailed Jano for the test requested as well but people are making it sounds like its CN oil until proven otherwise.
Yall want to start rumors instead of waiting for the testing results. You dont even have to wait for international shipping lol I know a few comments were constructive to explaining what is in question and how to solve it. But a lot of the others are just pissing into the wind causing confusion.
Theres a lot of crossover chatter from other vendors in this thread that cofuse people into thinking you are talking about primal when they are skimming the Primal-Pharma thread to catch up.
Someone mentions it every so often, but this time itll be me lol
Take a cue from the vets on the board and dont be naming vendors and talking about their products on this thread. Go start a general thread for that or you know.. keep talk about each vendor/product in their own thread
To be clear; I do want to see the testing and I havent order Primo yet waiting to see the results.
Infernalmango
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It’ll be gone before any gcms testing comes through.
Because of the impatience. He already mentioned theres more in a couple weeks.
Whistles77
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I dont agree at all.
- Raws weren’t tested, despite long history of “let’s test raws”
- Other vendors locally passed of resold vials as own.
In light of that, it doesn’t seem too much of a hassle to ask for explicit yes/no, but GCMS will help put legitimate questions to rest.
I had 3 of the Primo200’s in my cart, but the PIP stories of other vendors gear made me cautious as I don’t want to waste cash on good gear that I can’t use.
RockyP
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I’m not in the market for primo ATM and these prices (market is dictating it, primal isn’t gouging) make me want to gargle drano. That said if I had to lay a bet, I’d say this is not resold china stuff. Other high volume vendors are starting to bring primo and mast to market. There can only be so many raws sources for this stuff. And while primal has had some issues like ALL other vendors have at one time or another, their customer service has been top tier. It would be a real spit in the face to their customers to come out with resold china shit and NOT specify that as such. Nothing would surprise me but imo it’s low probability.
But…if anyone wants to send it off and if there’s any EO in it, you’ll have your answer.
But…if anyone wants to send it off and if there’s any EO in it, you’ll have your answer.
RockyP
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The irony is that the Chinese EO containing Primo200 is smooth as butter. A lot of the domestic stuff I’ve tried from reputable vendors is…spicy.
Raiders789
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Yeah def - If i were primal and I knew that I brewed my own stuff, I would be 100% confident the tests will come back with 0 EO and wound't even resond to accusations that it wasn't. And since none of the other domestic sources have primo there is definitely an incentive to get it on the market as fast as possible. If they had to test the raws first, they'd have to wait a week for jano to send them the confirmation before they'd be able to brew - but if they just brewed right away and sent a sample to jano, that confirms their shit is good and they can put it on the website right away.
I think its good that ppl on this forum are super critical tho because it keeps standards high. Like so many people shit on primal for the cyp 50 overdose and the vials and the anadrol thing etc. which is great bc it keeps them accountable, and I still think Primal is one of the best domestic vendors in terms of product quality + customer service + delivery times. I don't think Primal would risk their reputation they've built and all the shit they've taken on rebottling chinese primo, but ig we will see.
What are considered normal prices? My bullshit primo I once purchased was $90/vial so I really dont know. $66.66 per vial doesnt sound bad from my perspective, but if your used to paying $30 I can understand gargling drano lol
Whistles77
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I’m working partly on a report of “crushing pip” (the other reselling vendor not Primal). Often I’d take a punt and deal with it, but not when throwing $500 on a few vials. Past my risk threshold sadly.
Raiders789
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In march SSA was selling primo20 kits for $500 and ppl were complaining about that being expensive
I think they used to go for like $250ish but that was before my time
Photon
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There's nothing stopping vendors from testing both raws and brewed oils at the same time. All you need is to set aside a small amount of raws to send it prior to brewing.
IMO vendor testing isn't reliable, only 3rd party testing is. Nothing is stopping vendors from sending Jano something else for testing. We've already seen some weird variances between 3rd party and vendor testing.
This is the best reason why accusations keep coming.
Constantly saying one thing and doing another..is not going to inspire confidence. If he doesn't want to test any raws, then just say it's not going to happen. This is not exclusive to Primo. A whole bunch of products have no raw testing.
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SwolieGuacamole
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100% correct. It’s nothing more than their word. You have no idea what oil it is, or what raw batch it’s from.There's nothing stopping vendors from testing both raws and brewed oils at the same time. All you need is to set aside a small amount of raws to send it prior to brewing.
IMO vendor testing isn't reliable, only 3rd party testing is. Nothing is stopping vendors from sending Jano something else for testing. We've already seen some weird variances between 3rd party and vendor testing.
This is the best reason why accusations keep coming.
Constantly saying one thing and doing another..is not going to inspire confidence. If he doesn't want to test any raws, then just say it's not going to happen. This is not exclusive to Primo. A whole bunch of products have no raw testing.
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Cust blind testing is always the move. It’s just least likely to happen. And at that point, we’re trusting labels if we are relying on someone else’s blind testing
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