SwolieGuacamole
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Unfortunately, you have more guys on here who aren’t understanding, or are on board with this than not.That’s really been what “domestic” is supposed to represent over “cheap Chinese gear” right?
Otherwise, it’s just paying a large premium to avoid the risk of getting a customs letter. That may matter if someone’s in a rush, on probation or in a sensitive job, but for anyone else, it’s not really worth it.
I agree, close to what a tiny mom & pop one man compounding pharma can produce is reasonable and within reach.
I’ll add I think the hardware upgrade is commendable and a real step in the direction of harm reduction. Users may not “feel” it, but the fact is every pharma injectable has to prove no harmful chemicals leach from the container into the liquid. Raw bromobutyl rubber is not compatible with oils, especially MCT, while EO and BB are even worse when contacting raw rubber. On top of this, the rubber being used by UGL is generally cheap, non-FDA approved Chinese junk that’s even more prone to turning into mush, and who knows what chems they might be using cut costs. Keeping this crap out of your body is a good thing, period.
Staying out of the primo issue, one final note.
Awareness of oil oxidation is just getting rolling, and I’m not making any excuses for any vendor. However, it’s important to keep in mind we’ve only recently gotten the ability to identify this problem, and only with the minority of vendors that have GCMS data available. I wouldn’t want anyone to get the impression a single vendor is having this issue (especially when they provide the GCMS data) and others (that don’t have GCMS data) have good oil, because I’m pretty sure they’re all slinging oxidized gear. I’ve seen evidence that what’s being sold as “pharma” grade oils to vendors trying to do the right thing is not what’s being represented by the oil sellers. Oil fraud is very common. The best way to avoid this is sticking with reputable brands that come with a COA showing the peroxide value for that batch. Shedding light on this at every opportunity should eventually squash this issue as customers and vendors become aware of this avoidable health risk and only real pharma injectable grade, oxidation resistant oils become the norm, just like small compounding pharmacies use.
Social media has turned a harm reduction board, into which source is my “bro” with the cheapest gear.
Guys are more worried about finding primo over systemic inflammation.
Every time I have a swelling stopper that’s leaking oil, my thought is, how many toxins leeched into the oil. These guys will call you science nerds and say you’re focused on insignificant things. lol.




