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I think the issue for many of these vendors and why cap colors don’t matter is they are functionally drop shipping these products. They order from their factories. Have them sent to us from a central shipping processor and they never touch the product therefore it’s faster for us to ship and test the products than they can. Also who knows if our products tested will match whatever their next batch from whatever factory they are using on the next order will be.

The packaging is a decent clue. I don’t think they’re copying each others small details, like the label design and exact box.

But you’re right, the sad fact is we can never be certain what we get is what was tested. You’d have to test your own kit, and I hate to say it, but even that’s no guarantee every vial in that kit is correct. One has to accept a degree of risk with UGL, and one of the reasons why some will pay the premium for pharma. You’re not going to get a vial of Sema mixed in with your Serostim.
 
Satisfactory testing should be reimbursed 100% also, in exchange for you to be able to use the reports, seeing as it is difficult for you to do and it reassured your customers.

QSC regularly share customer test reports, which is as good as them testing it themselves IML
Agree 1000% especially under current circumstances
 
I appreciate you explaining, and maybe there is something I do not understand here, but surely you are making very good profit from each product batch you buy? Therefore that would make testing a very insignificant % of profits?

Therefore, yes, testing everything will cost much more than not testing. But the cost gets easily absorbed by profits. No?

Surely you realise the value of testing. If so, you must also understand that if any vendor starts testing every or most batches before selling them, then customer will flock to them. Leaving all the other vendors behind.

This is what happens when a persons ass has a direct connection to their brain.

You’re seriously trying to lecture a source on how to run their own business and telling them what would cost more or less based on how you think their business operates?

What real insight do you have into their costs, overhead, risk, or operations?

Yes, everyone understands the value of testing. That doesn’t give you the authority to dictate how someone else structures their entire operation or imply they’re doing it wrong because it doesn’t fit your ideal scenario.
 
This is what happens when a persons ass has a direct connection to their brain.

You’re seriously trying to lecture a source on how to run their own business and telling them what would cost more or less based on how you think their business operates?

What real insight do you have into their costs, overhead, risk, or operations?

Yes, everyone understands the value of testing. That doesn’t give you the authority to dictate how someone else structures their entire operation or imply they’re doing it wrong because it doesn’t fit your ideal scenario.
Totally reasonable to expect them to drop $20k on testing to secure his $300 order.
 
Lift your arms chaps.
You are both getting blood on the floor.

You see those hook shaped things with a dot underneath? <---- oh look, there's another one!
 
Lift your arms chaps.
You are both getting blood on the floor.

You see those hook shaped things with a dot underneath? <---- oh look, there's another one!

You’re trying to analyse and question a source’s business model and internal economics when you don’t actually have access to their figures. Even if you’re phrasing it as questions, you’re still making assumptions about their profitability and cost structure that you can’t verify.

Asking whether their profits “surely” make testing insignificant is speculation, just wrapped in polite phrasing. You’re implying a conclusion without the data to support it.
 
Not sure why you guys are protecting source from testing products. I get you want cheapest possible but come on lol
 
This is what happens when a persons ass has a direct connection to their brain.

You’re seriously trying to lecture a source on how to run their own business and telling them what would cost more or less based on how you think their business operates?

What real insight do you have into their costs, overhead, risk, or operations?

Yes, everyone understands the value of testing. That doesn’t give you the authority to dictate how someone else structures their entire operation or imply they’re doing it wrong because it doesn’t fit your ideal scenario.

Agree

Everyone assumes sources are wealthy fat cats sitting on loads of profits

I'm sure they make money, maybe even enough for a family of 5, but I doubt many of them have 2 vacation homes and a garage filled with luxury cars
 
Agree

Everyone assumes sources are wealthy fat cats sitting on loads of profits

I'm sure they make money, maybe even enough for a family of 5, but I doubt many of them have 2 vacation homes and a garage filled with luxury cars
So? That means they should be able to sell bunk gh??
 
I was. Feelz report was good. 10iu a day.

I just switched to the latest H10 batch(blue top new label design)... debated not using them until there was testing... but decided to send a vial tonight.

LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS...
Update:

Did a full send of 10iu, full vial, reconned with 1cc hospira. Hurt like hell for almost 24 hours.

Might need to send this one out for testing lmao.
 
You’re trying to analyse and question a source’s business model and internal economics when you don’t actually have access to their figures. Even if you’re phrasing it as questions, you’re still making assumptions about their profitability and cost structure that you can’t verify.

Asking whether their profits “surely” make testing insignificant is speculation, just wrapped in polite phrasing. You’re implying a conclusion without the data to support it.
Cool story.
 
Update:

Did a full send of 10iu, full vial, reconned with 1cc hospira. Hurt like hell for almost 24 hours.

Might need to send this one out for testing lmao.
Dude, thats messed up. That ain't GH... or at least uncontaminated GH. Do you happen to have PH strips? I'd be curious to see if its super acidic or super alkaline.
 
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