MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[maddie]

Brother, Anadrol isn’t a pre-workout where you judge it based on how nauseous or “wrecked” you feel at a certain dose. How hard it hits varies wildly person to person, diet, how run down you are from prep, liver health, timing, what else you’re taking, and even brand formulation all play a role without saying anything about actual mg content. Saying “100 mg of what I’m using now would make me throw up, so this must be bunk” doesn’t prove anything, if anything, it raises more questions about the other product. The only real way to call something underdosed is with objective data like bloodwork trends or an actual assay on the exact batch you ran.

On the bigger picture, the constructive criticism has only pushed us to improve. The fact that most sources here are still using standard butyl stoppers floors me. We upgraded all our hardware within a few months. And on the testing side, we’ve tightened our entire process. I’m sure you probably missed the last blind test of six or so products, all of which landed exactly where they should.

I'm glad you guys are using higher quality hardware. I spent a few hours the other day transferring your old vials to some new ALK. Going forward I'll only buy quality hardware since transferring and filtering sucks for the average bear. I do like that you guys are always improving.

 

[monster8912]

The anadrol definitely works, ive increased my 315 reps on bench for 3 weeks straight. It is making me breakout tho, so im stopping it. Currently using primal test mast and tren as well, but never had any acne issues until I threw in the anadrol.

 

[Dj11235813]

Nice numbers dude. How are you feeling with e2 at 72?

Was this standard E2 reading or ultra sensitive btw? Im on 200mg/week at hit 2k total test, but e2 was at 26 (ultra sensitive)

Thanks! It was Standard E2 reading. Interestingly with e2 at 72, I’m not noticing much of any of the E sides, perhaps just high blood pressure.

My mistake to not clarifying. It’s Test E 250mg from Primal. That test is from 11/10, work & life has just been distracting meant to post sooner. And as for the bloodwork itself, I was meant to get it a day after pinning, but work happened so I had to reschedule for Wednesday, which I dosed 75mg that morning. Blood work was drawn at 3:30 that day.

This is my first cycle.

 

[Raiders789]

Alright guys I'm back -

So Primal reached out after my last post and hooked me up with an early in on their new batch of primo they brewed (no EO) with the new vials + labels. They're waiting on the Jano GCMS to come out before officially releasing/listing them, but wanted to let me in early just in case they sell out quick so I could run my EO experiment.

All I can say is that the new vials + design look sexy as hell! My ass can't wait to get penetrated by these sexy mfs later tonight.

 

[shcidheuddvv]

Is there a Jano GCMS for the most recent Test C batch?

 

[crispybacon!]

Further to this, and in hopes of keeping things productive and from going off the rails…

I am also sending in a sample from each of my remaining 3 vials of TC250-P10 for testing. All else aside, I have to give @Primal_Pharma credit for agreeing to reimburse for this testing.

This testing will personally benefit me, as I’ll know the concentration of my remaining product. However, I’m hopeful that this will benefit both Primal and the community.

I’m curious to know how this information can be used? If all 3 come back close to the 221mg that my first test showed, what does that tell us? Does this invalidate the official 243mg COA? What other possible conclusion can be drawn?

Closing this out… I received the results from the 3 additional TC250-P10 (early-September) samples.

First, I want to give credit where it’s due. Despite anything else, I have to give props to @Primal_Pharma for agreeing to this testing without hesitation. This goes a long way in rebuilding trust (for me at least). I’m hopeful the results can benefit the community and help to improve Primal’s processes, particularly regarding how they brew and/or define batches.

Here are the combined results for the 4 different TC250 P10 (early-September) samples:

Full 10ml vial: 220.93 mg/ml
Sample A: 231.73 mg/ml
Sample B: 224.32 mg/ml
Sample C: 220.62 mg/ml

Average: 224.4 mg/ml

Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical

 

[TallandSmall]

I have decently sized calves, ~18 inches, and I’m so scared to add it in somebody tell me to quit being a pussy and tell me it ain’t as bad as I think it is.

I'm a newb and I've been hitting calves. No issues for me. It's a super easy spot if it works out for you.

 

[justanoob]

Closing this out… I received the results from the 3 additional TC250-P10 (early-September) samples.

First, I want to give credit where it’s due. Despite anything else, I have to give props to @Primal_Pharma for agreeing to this testing without hesitation. This goes a long way in rebuilding trust (for me at least). I’m hopeful the results can benefit the community and help to improve Primal’s processes, particularly regarding how they brew and/or define batches.

Here are the combined results for the 4 different TC250 P10 (early-September) samples:

Full 10ml vial: 220.93 mg/ml
Sample A: 231.73 mg/ml
Sample B: 224.32 mg/ml
Sample C: 220.62 mg/ml

Average: 224.4 mg/ml

Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical

Love to see this. Big thank you for sending all
this in and thanks to @Primal_Pharma for constantly improving and showing why he’s one of my favorite sources. Now if only the raw situation would get better so I can send him money for my essential oils and peptides lmao

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Closing this out… I received the results from the 3 additional TC250-P10 (early-September) samples.

First, I want to give credit where it’s due. Despite anything else, I have to give props to @Primal_Pharma for agreeing to this testing without hesitation. This goes a long way in rebuilding trust (for me at least). I’m hopeful the results can benefit the community and help to improve Primal’s processes, particularly regarding how they brew and/or define batches.

Here are the combined results for the 4 different TC250 P10 (early-September) samples:

Full 10ml vial: 220.93 mg/ml
Sample A: 231.73 mg/ml
Sample B: 224.32 mg/ml
Sample C: 220.62 mg/ml

Average: 224.4 mg/ml

Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical

Thank you for this. This must have been that 'forgotten' batch. Regardless, lesson learned. Don't source from sources you're not familiar with, regardless of demand.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Is there a Jano GCMS for the most recent Test C batch?

I asked for it a little while ago. I will post when received. I think it's taking longer since we only did HPLC, got results (P12 batch, 254.52mg/mL) then I asked for GCMS about a week later. Good to know they hold on to vials (not sure how long but they've been extremely accommodating). I am going to follow up on the GCMS and see what is going on.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I asked for it a little while ago. I will post when received. I think it's taking longer since we only did HPLC, got results (P12 batch, 254.52mg/mL) then I asked for GCMS about a week later. Good to know they hold on to vials (not sure how long but they've been extremely accommodating). I am going to follow up on the GCMS and see what is going on.

Update: I asked and paid for GCMS on our Cyp 250 on December 1st. This is from batch P12 which we got HPLC results on November 20th. Just followed up with another email, asked to 'rush' this one.

 

[ackmack78]

Update: I asked and paid for GCMS on our Cyp 250 on December 1st. This is from batch P12 which we got HPLC results on November 20th. Just followed up with another email, asked to 'rush' this one.

If p12 got results on Nov 20 then what is this that was p12 from october? These went out with p11 labels but you said it was actually p12

 

[Primal_Pharma]

If p12 got results on Nov 20 then what is this that was p12 from october? These went out with p11 labels but you said it was actually p12

Yes that’s when we had the labels all messed up and botched.

 

[TallandSmall]

Here are my bloods on 300mg of Primal's Test C. I'm not a hyper responder like these other guys, but I'm confident in the product I'm using as previously tested.

 

[Photon]

Good to know they hold on to vials (not sure how long

At least 6 months.
You can always email to add testing.

 

[Earthworm Jim]

I notice only new members say his stuff works. Granted I'm pretty new here myself. His anadrol didn't do anything at all even at 100 mgs. If I took 100 mgs of the stuff I'm running now I'd be throwing up on the gym floor. If I'd read the whole thread before I wouldn't have ordered in the first place. Anadrol 50 under dosed by 20 mgs not very long ago and a lot of tests not matching his own tests means primal doesn't know what he's doing in the first place. Or worse he knows exactly what he's doing. Who knows maybe his injectables are fine but the anadrol I got was bunk.

I've been on primal gear for over 17 weeks last time I checked my log. I've gone from 224 lbs 28% BF to 179 lbs and can barely touch my shoulder with just the tip of my thumb. I stocked up on his 25mg adrol whenever it was discounted awhile back. My experience.... Wouldn't even consider taking 50mg of it that stuff stimulates my CNS very intensely about 90 minutes after taking it. This is my first cycle and I learned to be careful about taking it because it makes it pretty easy to catch an injury in my shoulder joints from going too hard. I also use his dbol 25's to great effect.

With the anadrol I even get this weird tension feeling lingering in my jaws a few hours post workout. It's kind of annoying

 

[Earthworm Jim]

The anadrol definitely works, ive increased my 315 reps on bench for 3 weeks straight. It is making me breakout tho, so im stopping it. Currently using primal test mast and tren as well, but never had any acne issues until I threw in the anadrol.

It's pretty easy to look at the numbers on my training log week to week and tell what days I took the adrol

 

[Primal_Pharma]

HGH Blue Top Kits back in STOCK! Labelled at 10iu/vial, 100iu/kit but tested above at 11iu

HGH Blue Top -> 11.19iu (3.73mg) at 97.64%

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

@Primal_Pharma is now my sole source replacing Stan after years... No issue with Stan, I just don't buy/use much these days. No issue with Primal, you're doing a good job brother. Raise prices 10% for a Christmas sale and tellem deez nutz...

 

[Photon]

I'm glad you guys are using higher quality hardware. I spent a few hours the other day transferring your old vials to some new ALK. Going forward I'll only buy quality hardware since transferring and filtering sucks for the average bear. I do like that you guys are always improving.

Adding in Primal, there's now at least 5 vendors using the better stoppers. At a minimum PTFE or FluroTec. It's good to see he decided to join in.