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[Mr.AAJR]

Thanks for providing the pic. It almost looks like moisture damage. Hard to tell from the pic, but do the stains appear to be on the outside or inside of the caps?

Would you please stop shilling for Primal by asking so many questions? Fuck man.

 

[nullandvoid]

You wouldn't happen to be on Tren or hungry, would you?

 

[k710]

You don't need chatGPT at all.
You have enough data on hand, why use GPT?

This is the pure oil GCMS for 812.
Only contains C8/10.


The vendor started off with MCT then apparently switched to 812.
None of the GCMS of MCT nor 812, have those components.
You have over 15-20 GCMS in this thread alone, you can search and compare, no GPT needed.

Regarding the other..stuff
- Vendor buying and using wrong oil for 1 batch of brew?
- Mislabeled oil? Rancid oil? Oil scam?
- Pharma grade and IV grade 812 containing unwanted components?
- Degrading from low chain fatty acids.. into high chain fatty acids?

None of it makes any sense, if you want to buy the product, just buy it and use it. Really you don't need to justify it to anyone. Like i said, we have enough (15-20+) GCMS reports, to show, that this 1 batch, was not the same as any other batch. No GPT please.

No i don't think the reports were edited. They were just done using different conditions, heat etc. It's not possible to expect them to run it under exactly same conditions each time.

Sorry I'm going to bow out of this discussion, it's no longer worth the time.

Imo it is veggie oil, and you do not have to agree with me.

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Feb 1, 2026

I haven’t seen much of a clear explanation as to why it’s not what it’s claimed yet (100mg primo in Migoyl). I’ve a couple of vials and am interested. From what I can tell from my inexperienced research on lipids, I don’t see any evidence suggesting it’s not what primal claimed.

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It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have...

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Feb 1, 2026

Nothing ever gets addressed in this thread.
Each time bad results are posted, another unrelated argument magically unfolds itself and everything gets buried.

The more 3rd party results are done, the worse it gets.

Test E - China oil.

Primo 200 - P11 - China oil.

Primo 100 - P12 - China oil.

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Just to be clear.. I am not justifying anything. Nor was I disagreeing with you.

I actually agree with you on the oils not matching up. I was simply investigating and looking at every aspect I could think of. I actually dont think ive ever disagreed with any of your posts and have only asked for guidance in most if not all. Its all out of respect. Not picking things apart to argue, just trying to learn how you pieced it all together (if that makes sense lol)

Im was just digging into it out of curiosity and as a learning experience for gcsm reports, oils and their different grades I dont know anything about. Chatgpt wasnt being used to analyze the gcsm report, but to ask it about specific components. Like how is it possible for X,Y,Z to show up when only X,Y should be present. Then wtf was mig812, and down the rabbit hole of mig 818 and all the other nubmers, manufacturing ect.

And thanks for expanding on the lab/lab tech question. I understand not running the exact same conditions each time, but I wonder how different the end report can really be. Maybe ill find an example in my dig and ill start a thread to ask questions so yall can interact IF you want and not because I replied/tagged ya. Plus not clutter the vendor thread. Cheers

 

[Mr.AAJR]

You wouldn't happen to be on Tren or hungry, would you?

Go back a couple pages and it will make sense.

 

[Wildcard781]

You wouldn't happen to be on Tren or hungry, would you?

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Here's the Nolva. The weird thing is the bottle was in the same spot as the Superdrol, Anadrol and Adex I bought off him. All work great and don't show any signs of degradation. I got no answers. I can only assume it was a freak thing. Shit happens. It's no sweat off my balls, I just figured it's worth pointing out on Meso. I've been in this game for 20yrs and never seen anything like that happen before.

As for the rubber in the oils, when I get home from work I'll send some pics. I thought I took some but apparently I didn't, as I can't find them on my phone. I tossed the Test P but still have Test E, Ment and some Tren E with stopper chunks floating around. Again, I've dealt with the occasional piece of stopper in the past. Most of us have I'm sure. For me it has been at the end of 20ml bottles. The issue here is 1., by the 2nd or 3rd injection day I was seeing chunks floating around. So it wasn't simply one just before the end of the bottle. It was enough for me to inadvertently inject a microscopic piece - which is on me for not filtering the moment I noticed the slightest issue. It was such a shitty experience I'm now investing in vial spikes and filters going forward. Who knows how much microscopic silicone and rubber we all have floating around in our bodies from yrs of gear use but I imagine it's much more than we'd like to admit.

Anyway, to be clear, I don't expect any compensation from Primal. If that were the case I'd have asked him for some. Yeah, I had to toss a bunch of bottles but I also should have been filtering shit in the first place. I'm responsible for what goes in my body. Like I said, I've always been a fan of his gear and made a number of orders with him. I do think it was worth mentioning the stoppers, especially for any newer guys who aren't aware they can filter their gear, as I've never seen them degrade so quickly and easily in my 20 or so yrs of using gear from quite a few different vendors in that time.

As for the Nolva. Ha - I have no clue and have chalked it up to shit happens. I suppose i could ask Primal for a new bottle but honestly I don't even take the shit. It was needed in a pinch and his delivery was 3 days back then. It's not worth making a fuss about to him.

Gotta get back to the job. I'll get the oil pics when I get the chance and will send them to you.

Brother we always make it right. Feel free to DM or email, happy to get these all replaced!

 

[johnydrama]

Sent out 2 vials of the TU. Same batch slightly different shades. I will share what I got back so far still waiting on one of the quantitative tests.

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[Ateam2023]

Sent out 2 vials of the TU. Same batch slightly different shades. I will share what I got back so far still waiting on one of the quantitative tests.

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At least it was just MCT oil this time

 

[GDJ]

@Primal_Pharma can you please respond to these discrepancies? You have stated in the past that it’s impossible that this is Chinese oil. Yet these GCMS results are inconsistent with Mig 812.

Make it make sense.

I guess silence speaks louder than words.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I guess silence speaks louder than words.

Post back-to-back receipts, screenshots of exactly what you're talking about

Cuz @Photon posts are a lot harder to ignore

 

[Tore22]

I reached out to Primal he apologized sincerely and is making it right. They are out of primo so sending 3 test cyp 250. Thank you Primal I’m going to give this batch a try and see how it goes thank you for EVERYONES input in the discussion. Have a blessed day!

 

[crispybacon!]

I reached out to Primal he apologized sincerely and is making it right. They are out of primo so sending 3 test cyp 250. Thank you Primal I’m going to give this batch a try and see how it goes thank you for EVERYONES input in the discussion. Have a blessed day!

So you had to have surgery after pinning this gear, but 3 free vials and you’re good to go?

How’d the surgery go, by the way??

I placed with primal for the first time at the end of December ETA great, packaging great, gear looks good. However I ordered test cyp and primo 100. I did 4 injections. The worse PIP i ever had, injection site staying hard and a huge painful lump for weeks. Now I have one on my left thigh idk for sure it’s from their product but I have to have surgery on Monday to get it drained so it doesn’t go septic in my bloodstream and we’ll yeh once septic that about it. Anyone have any issues lately? Any advice on what the best most professional way to handle this? Thank you everyone for your input it really is a drag incant even pin my trt right now bc of all the lumps in my injection sites.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I guess silence speaks louder than words.

The only explanation I can offer is that the Primo CN oils were labeled P11, as I’ve stated multiple times. It’s possible a P12 was mislabeled, but I don’t have a definitive answer. We were very strict about maintaining a clear distinction between CN Primo and Primal Primo.

 

[Tore22]

So you had to have surgery after pinning this gear, but 3 free vials and you’re good to go?

How the surgery go, by the way??

I wouldn’t say good to go but I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt probably look into filtering my own oils as well. Thanks for asking brother they had to lance it open and drain everything out on antibiotics now. Incant stand surgery but had to do it!

 

[Crx221]

Labs on the P12 Batch, dosing is spot on.

 

[Tore22]

Labs on the P12 Batch, dosing is spot on.

This is from Primal test cyp?

 

[Rbvasques]

My first order of primal was about a month ago.
Today i was starting my cycle, when i was opening the Deca vials, the whole stopper came out, some of it spilled, i injected my 1ml, and threw away the rest, bathroom smells.
Not the best first experience.

 

[Patar1968]

My first order of primal was about a month ago.
Today i was starting my cycle, when i was opening the Deca vials, the whole stopper came out, some of it spilled, i injected my 1ml, and threw away the rest, bathroom smells.
Not the best first experience.

Pictures??

 

[Dial It In]

Pictures??

What good is a pic going to do? I can pull a stopper out of a vial and say it happened. This is a scenario where you believe it or you don’t. In general there is a history of caps buried in this thread that don’t come off clean so it’s 100 percent feasible. Someone posted a pic a day or two ago of a cap not coming off like it should. Not trying to be an ass but a pic of this scenario isn’t much help.

 

[Dial It In]

Labs on the P12 Batch, dosing is spot on.

You do bloods every six to eight weeks normally or you do this because you changed esters? When did you stop the Test E from December?