MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[Primal_Pharma]

We have been transparent since 'Primo Gate'. We learned our lesson lol...

Again, for the 100th time, the only resold oils here was the P11 Primo. That is it. Not sure where this Test E came from, but I am going to shoot straight and tell you guys again - ONLY THING CHINA HERE WAS P11 Primo... (and peptides but we knew that)

Going to attach our MCT and GSO oil GCMS I sent in December. @Photon - since you seem to be one of the few that understands, here is our footprint for each.

MCT Oil GCMS

GSO Oil GCMS - We use 'Filtered Grapeseed Oil, 100% Pure, Therapeutic Grade'

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Nothing ever gets addressed in this thread.
Each time bad results are posted, another unrelated argument magically unfolds itself and everything gets buried.

The more 3rd party results are done, the worse it gets.

Test E - China oil.


Primo 200 - P11 - China oil.


Primo 100 - P12 - China oil.

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Jan 12, 2026

I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml...

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Glad to see you upholding your word of occasionally coming back to this page just to post this.

 

[Tore22]

Would it be helpful to post the primo vial?

 

[crispybacon!]

Maybe it’s just you big dog. I’ve been here 13 years and never been accused of either.

This you, big dog? Glazing Primal less than two months ago. Must’ve been a rough breakup.

I like that this source takes criticism and actually seems to learn something from it. I’ve had a few small issues with the orders I’ve made and he’s been solid and prompt about taking care of me.

Now that the stopper issue has been rectified and new testing keeps coming I think things are definitely looking up.

 

[desertwarrior]

A post about my experience? I’ve been very clear in this thread that I have purchased gear from this source. I clearly mentioned issues with my orders in the post quoted but that I was optimistic the source seemed to be making improvements. Glazing is a fucking reach.

You’re clearly rubbing people wrong in both directions. I wasn’t even being rude to you, maybe if you’re looking bad to people on both sides of an argument keeping your opinion to yourself would be ideal. All I’m saying, I’ve never had those problems.

This you, big dog? Glazing Primal less than two months ago. Must’ve been a rough breakup.

 

[Tore22]

A post about my experience? I’ve been very clear in this thread that I have purchased gear from this source. I clearly mentioned issues with my orders in the post quoted but that I was optimistic the source seemed to be making improvements. Glazing is a fucking reach.

You’re clearly rubbing people wrong in both directions. I wasn’t even being rude to you, maybe if you’re looking bad to people on both sides of an argument keeping your opinion to yourself would be ideal. All I’m saying, I’ve never had those problems.

Thank you for your input desertwarrior I appreciate you

 

[The Answ3r]

Jesus Christ, now we’re measuring forum dicks by who’s been here longer:
“10 years here, trust me.”
“20 years here, my word is law.”

Congrats. Time served doesn’t magically turn you into an expert or make your opinion gospel. Longevity ≠ credibility. I’m not saying there aren’t a few guys whose opinions I respect, there are. I just won’t name them because their egos are already on HGH.

But this whole “you’re new so you can’t be trusted, I’m an old guard so listen to me” routine is wild. Absolute boomer energy.

Then we’ve got people casually claiming there are human remains floating in oil… and somehow no proof is needed because “the community should trust me.” But vendors? Nah, they’re evil cartoon villains trying to rob us blind. Trust is apparently selective now.

And don’t even get me started on the nostalgia sermons: “Back in my day the forum was harder.” “Back then men were men.”

Yeah, cool story. That era is gone. Some legends left, some disappeared, some literally died. Times change. Do I miss parts of the old days? Sure. But pretending nothing changed or that everything new is automatically trash is just denial.

And the funniest part? It’s the same cycle every single week. New drama. Same arguments. Same outrage. Different names, same bullshit.

At some point you gotta ask… aren’t you guys tired of running this loop on repeat?

 

[crispybacon!]

A post about my experience? I’ve been very clear in this thread that I have purchased gear from this source. I clearly mentioned issues with my orders in the post quoted but that I was optimistic the source seemed to be making improvements. Glazing is a fucking reach.

You’re clearly rubbing people wrong in both directions. I wasn’t even being rude to you, maybe if you’re looking bad to people on both sides of an argument keeping your opinion to yourself would be ideal. All I’m saying, I’ve never had those problems.

Wait, but you do have that problem now. Because I’m calling you a hypocrite. My actions are no more egregious than yours. Remember, you mischaracterized my comment asking for proof as white knighting - that was a reach.

 

[Ateam2023]

I had to insert this into this thread ,,, seems appropriate

 

[jpe1]

Not sure what you want me to say, brother. Aside from the P11 Primo batch, all of our products are pure MCT and GSO as is evident in the testing I just released. I am not going to go back and forth with this.

Each time bad results are posted, another unrelated argument magically unfolds itself and everything gets buried.

The more 3rd party results are done, the worse it gets.

Test E - China oil.

Primo 100 - P12 - China oil.

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Jan 12, 2026

I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml...

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Just so I'm following (I see what you mean with wadding through the noise. Its like they are bots used to just shuffle pages)

The vendor has said he’s resold CN oil in the past 1 time, but is saying the newest batches are not CN relabels. When 3rd party testing occurs it hasn’t been consistent with the vendors results/testing.

Setting the inconsistencies aside (which could point to different batches or possible relabels), was there also a GCMS result showing it was EO or evidence that it is indeed CN relabel? I know someone sent a sample in, but I’m not experienced enough reading those reports to catch what stands out.

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[BigDadd7]

Interesting that you tried to tell me I was demanding attention and respect for simply asking for this very thing. Just the slightest bit of evidence. Weird.

Be quiet

 

[bigstepper]

Just so I'm following (I see what you mean with wadding through the noise. Its like they are bots used to just shuffle pages)

The vendor has said he’s resold CN oil in the past 1 time, but is saying the newest batches are not CN relabels. When 3rd party testing occurs it hasn’t been consistent with the vendors results/testing.

Setting the inconsistencies aside (which could point to different batches or possible relabels), was there also a GCMS result showing it was EO or evidence that it is indeed CN relabel? I know someone sent a sample in, but I’m not experienced enough reading those reports to catch what stands out.

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Primal dropped primo 100 and 200 in late December, claimed it was brewed in house with mig 812. Primal also provided a Jano for the raws as well as a gcms and hplc for the 200 that backed up his claims.

People were immediately skeptical of the 100 because it was dosed much more accurate than the 200 and was selectively omitted from GCMS testing.

@Magenzus then GCMS’d us and it came back different than the 200 and primals other recent testing.

The concern is not necessarily the contents of the primo 100 gcms, but rather, it doesn’t appear to be exactly as claimed and no direct attempt at an explanation has been made.

That’s the jist of it. Your mileage may vary on whether its a significant concern or not.

 

[Mr.AAJR]

Be quiet

"You're right, and I am just a douchebag."

 

[Whistles77]

The concern is not necessarily the contents of the primo 100 gcms, but rather, it doesn’t appear to be exactly as claimed and no direct attempt at an explanation has been made.

I haven’t seen much of a clear explanation as to why it’s not what it’s claimed yet (100mg primo in Migoyl). I’ve a couple of vials and am interested. From what I can tell from my inexperienced research on lipids, I don’t see any evidence suggesting it’s not what primal claimed.

 

[jpe1]

Primal dropped primo 100 and 200 in late December, claimed it was brewed in house with mig 812. Primal also provided a Jano for the raws as well as a gcms and hplc for the 200 that backed up his claims.

People were immediately skeptical of the 100 because it was dosed much more accurate than the 200 and was selectively omitted from GCMS testing.

@Magenzus then GCMS’d us and it came back different than the 200 and primals other recent testing.

The concern is not necessarily the contents of the primo 100 gcms, but rather, it doesn’t appear to be exactly as claimed and no direct attempt at an explanation has been made.

That’s the jist of it. Your mileage may vary on whether its a significant concern or not.

Thanks for this! Okay. Yeah this tracks.

 

[Photon]

I haven’t seen much of a clear explanation as to why it’s not what it’s claimed yet (100mg primo in Migoyl). I’ve a couple of vials and am interested. From what I can tell from my inexperienced research on lipids, I don’t see any evidence suggesting it’s not what primal claimed.

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

Just see how clean this china oil report is, really well done...would make life so much easier to identify stuff..well...then you see the ones we have above. it makes a huge difference who runs the gcms at the lab..

Janoshik Analytical

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Dec 18, 2025

Primo 100mg/mL and 200 MCT BACK IN STOCK! Highest quality MCT oil (Miglyol 812).

Test E and Mast E should be arriving within the next 3 weeks. Happy Holidays everyone. You need anything from us just holler.

Primo E GCMS

Primo E 100mg/mL -> 101.57mg/mL


Primo E 200mg/mL -> 178.50mg/mL


Primo E Raw -> 94.71%

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[GDJ]

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

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@Primal_Pharma can you please respond to these discrepancies? You have stated in the past that it’s impossible that this is Chinese oil. Yet these GCMS results are inconsistent with Mig 812.

Make it make sense.

 

[trengod1992]

Any update on the mast e @Primal_Pharma

 

[NecroPhil]

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

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@Photon can you infer the strength of the primo - mg/ml from the area % as shown in the report?

 

[Photon]

@Photon can you infer the strength of the primo - mg/ml from the area % as shown in the report?

There;'s already a report

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Feb 1, 2026

Interesting it was primo 100 was in stock when I ordered on December around December 23rd

Dec 23rd was the MCT based domestic stuff that had GCMS a few pages back.

Vendor test: Janoshik Analytical
Raw: Janoshik Analytical
Customer GCMS: Janoshik Analytical

I haven’t pinned mine yet, but really don’t anticipate any issues.

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