MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[bigstepper]

Just so I'm following (I see what you mean with wadding through the noise. Its like they are bots used to just shuffle pages)

The vendor has said he’s resold CN oil in the past 1 time, but is saying the newest batches are not CN relabels. When 3rd party testing occurs it hasn’t been consistent with the vendors results/testing.

Setting the inconsistencies aside (which could point to different batches or possible relabels), was there also a GCMS result showing it was EO or evidence that it is indeed CN relabel? I know someone sent a sample in, but I’m not experienced enough reading those reports to catch what stands out.

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Primal dropped primo 100 and 200 in late December, claimed it was brewed in house with mig 812. Primal also provided a Jano for the raws as well as a gcms and hplc for the 200 that backed up his claims.

People were immediately skeptical of the 100 because it was dosed much more accurate than the 200 and was selectively omitted from GCMS testing.

@Magenzus then GCMS’d us and it came back different than the 200 and primals other recent testing.

The concern is not necessarily the contents of the primo 100 gcms, but rather, it doesn’t appear to be exactly as claimed and no direct attempt at an explanation has been made.

That’s the jist of it. Your mileage may vary on whether its a significant concern or not.

 

[Mr.AAJR]

Be quiet

"You're right, and I am just a douchebag."

 

[Whistles77]

The concern is not necessarily the contents of the primo 100 gcms, but rather, it doesn’t appear to be exactly as claimed and no direct attempt at an explanation has been made.

I haven’t seen much of a clear explanation as to why it’s not what it’s claimed yet (100mg primo in Migoyl). I’ve a couple of vials and am interested. From what I can tell from my inexperienced research on lipids, I don’t see any evidence suggesting it’s not what primal claimed.

 

[jpe1]

Primal dropped primo 100 and 200 in late December, claimed it was brewed in house with mig 812. Primal also provided a Jano for the raws as well as a gcms and hplc for the 200 that backed up his claims.

People were immediately skeptical of the 100 because it was dosed much more accurate than the 200 and was selectively omitted from GCMS testing.

@Magenzus then GCMS’d us and it came back different than the 200 and primals other recent testing.

The concern is not necessarily the contents of the primo 100 gcms, but rather, it doesn’t appear to be exactly as claimed and no direct attempt at an explanation has been made.

That’s the jist of it. Your mileage may vary on whether its a significant concern or not.

Thanks for this! Okay. Yeah this tracks.

 

[Photon]

I haven’t seen much of a clear explanation as to why it’s not what it’s claimed yet (100mg primo in Migoyl). I’ve a couple of vials and am interested. From what I can tell from my inexperienced research on lipids, I don’t see any evidence suggesting it’s not what primal claimed.

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

Just see how clean this china oil report is, really well done...would make life so much easier to identify stuff..well...then you see the ones we have above. it makes a huge difference who runs the gcms at the lab..

Janoshik Analytical

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Dec 18, 2025

Primo 100mg/mL and 200 MCT BACK IN STOCK! Highest quality MCT oil (Miglyol 812).

Test E and Mast E should be arriving within the next 3 weeks. Happy Holidays everyone. You need anything from us just holler.

Primo E GCMS

Primo E 100mg/mL -> 101.57mg/mL


Primo E 200mg/mL -> 178.50mg/mL


Primo E Raw -> 94.71%

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[GDJ]

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Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

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@Primal_Pharma can you please respond to these discrepancies? You have stated in the past that it’s impossible that this is Chinese oil. Yet these GCMS results are inconsistent with Mig 812.

Make it make sense.

 

[trengod1992]

Any update on the mast e @Primal_Pharma

 

[NecroPhil]

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

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@Photon can you infer the strength of the primo - mg/ml from the area % as shown in the report?

 

[Photon]

@Photon can you infer the strength of the primo - mg/ml from the area % as shown in the report?

There;'s already a report

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Today at 2:40 PM

Interesting it was primo 100 was in stock when I ordered on December around December 23rd

Dec 23rd was the MCT based domestic stuff that had GCMS a few pages back.

Vendor test: Janoshik Analytical
Raw: Janoshik Analytical
Customer GCMS: Janoshik Analytical

I haven’t pinned mine yet, but really don’t anticipate any issues.

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[Scooby69]

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

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Since Primal also offers GSO as a carrier oil, is it possible the components highlighted in green are contaminants from reused tubing/glassware/filters?

 

[Whistles77]

100

Janoshik Analytical

200

Janoshik Analytical

It's a pity these GCMS are not done consistently, some reports are really clean, clearly showing the oil type, none of these chemical names...and then you have some without even ba bb or..whatever.

The 200 is MCT, we overlap it with 100 - the same compounds are highlighted in yellow. The green compounds overlap with the ones found in veggie oil.

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They overlap right, but Trininolein and 7-Hexadecenal are both found in Coconut and Palm oils that Migoyl 812 is derived from right? 7-haexadecenal as an oxidation byproduct poossibly from heat in trace amounts (GCMS doesnt quanitfy trace or not as we already discussed), whilst Trininolein is the only C18 found in the ME100, which wouldn't make sense if it contained veg oil (there would be a lot of other compounds).

I feel like im missing something here. How confidently can we say that the presence of Trininolein and 7-Hexadecenal in the ME100 indicates that it contains veg oil or is from china?

I don't see the GCMS as being a perfect report, but inferring it contains veg oil feels a stretch to me (i acknowledge my feeling are irrelevant in the truth of the matter).