TRT for cycling,my experience Log

[bossetti]

Hi everyone,i wanted to start TRT because in high volume training(cycling) ,testosterone levels drops and i started to feel fatigued im a young guy, eating healty,sleeping,and doing generally everything right(maybe i should eat a bit more but thats another thing)
Mental drive lately started to be lower and i started to feel always tired no matter how much i sleeped
So i started to think about TRT the plan originally was to inject 10mg daily of test prop before going to sleep, so test should peak right in the morning,but i seen that sometimes sleep was disturbed,and sleep its important so the final choice is 10mg of test prop in the morning
Why test prop? Mainly for the fact that its in and out much faster,if ykyk,the protocol maybe gonna change in the future or receive temporary changes,for example the use of base testosterone,or maybe even doses

Stats:
Height:183cm/6.0
Weight:66kg/145lbs

Im not gonna give day to day updates,other than the first few weeks,and here i want to discus and document only the use of testosterone,most of the other special supplement used is gonna have a separate thread
Talking about day to day updates the first few comments are gonna be about the previous few days

 

[bossetti]

Day one injected 10 mg prop exactly at 6:52 in the morning, i did some interval where i bonked,i had lots of carbs in and got back pretty well finishing well the ride, i had some doms in the legs in the morning, i felt well the better mental energy in the afternoon, not tired like would happen normally

Day two injected 10 mg prop exactly at 7:00, rest day i was already feeling good

 

[malfeasance]

Hi everyone,i wanted to start TRT because in high volume training(cycling) ,testosterone levels drops and i started to feel fatigued im a young guy, eating healty,sleeping,and doing generally everything right(maybe i should eat a bit more but thats another thing)
Mental drive lately started to be lower and i started to feel always tired no matter how much i sleeped
So i started to think about TRT the plan originally was to inject 10mg daily of test prop before going to sleep, so test should peak right in the morning,but i seen that sometimes sleep was disturbed,and sleep its important so the final choice is 10mg of test prop in the morning
Why test prop? Mainly for the fact that its in and out much faster,if ykyk,the protocol maybe gonna change in the future or receive temporary changes,for example the use of base testosterone,or maybe even doses

Stats:
Height:183cm/6.0
Weight:66kg/145lbs

Im not gonna give day to day updates,other than the first few weeks,and here i want to discus and document only the use of testosterone,most of the other special supplement used is gonna have a separate thread
Talking about day to day updates the first few comments are gonna be about the previous few days

How low did your testosterone levels drop?

 

[bossetti]

How low did your testosterone levels drop?

Have to be honest, idk but there was like never recover from training and feeling always exhausted,really a bad feeling

 

[Gonz0]

This is pretty interesting , I wonder how TNE would stack up compared to the test prop. I know it’s in and out faster but not sure if you would get the same benefits. Cool thread regardless !

 

[bossetti]

This is pretty interesting , I wonder how TNE would stack up compared to the test prop. I know it’s in and out faster but not sure if you would get the same benefits. Cool thread regardless !

I remember the goat @Benf15harp said it had to be injected 3 times daily but could also be injected twice daily if over a certain dose(that i dont remember)

Btw thanks!

 

[Gonz0]

I remember the goat @Benf15harp said it had to be injected 3 times daily but could also be injected twice daily if over a certain dose(that i dont remember)

Btw thanks!

I’ve always used it pwo just to get a quick boost , definitely would be cool to try and run it as a stand alone. The frequent pins would get annoying but I don’t think anything else would clear your system as fast

 

[bossetti]

I’ve always used it pwo just to get a quick boost , definitely would be cool to try and run it as a stand alone. The frequent pins would get annoying but I don’t think anything else would clear your system as fast

Should be out of the sistem after 8h
Prop should be 4 days
There are ways to tweak the t/e ratio but an ester should flag a positive even before it
IRMS is done mostly if there are anomalies,at this point here idk how to tweak it lol
The only one is having a t/e ratio of 0 so no test or epitest in ur body

 

[Beetheone]

Have to be honest, idk but there was like never recover from training and feeling always exhausted,really a bad feeling

Have you tested any of your levels yet before jumping on TRT ? (Specifically T3,T4, or TSH). The not recovering, can easily be anything under the sun and to jump on TRT as an experiment is questionable. I've a seen a few of your posts and you've done quiet a few compounds/peptides and such and are still very young. You could easily just be in the off season and your body needs some rest from going full throttle for the last 9 months or something else could be at play but to jump on Test just to see if that's it, is risky.

I'm a former pro MTBer but was one of the few guys who didnt take anything illegal. Now I'm in my mid 50's and take a boatload of stuff (TRT being one of them). I only tell you this so you understand where my thoughts come from.

 

[bossetti]

Have you tested an of your levels yet before jumping on TRT ? (Specifically T3,T4, or TSH). The not recovering, can easily be anything under the sun and to jump on TRT as an experiment is questionable. I've a seen a few of your posts and you've done quiet a few compounds/peptides and such and are still very young. You could easily just be in the off season and your body needs some rest from going full throttle for the last 9 months or something else could be at play but to jump on Test just to see if that's it, is risky.

I'm a former pro MTBer but was one of the few guys who didnt take anything illegal. Now I'm in my mid 50's and take a boatload of stuff (TRT being one of them). I only tell you this so you understand where my thoughts come from.

No i havent done nothing before, i did epo but was bunk
Honestly no i havent tested anything,but i got on test and feel perfect so could be one of the things
Btw interesting having a former pro mtber

 

[maxtor]

Why the dose of 10mg daily?

 

[bossetti]

Why the dose of 10mg daily?

Because i dont really need to be huge,just need to recover, and feel good,the recover part i didnt thought was missing but i feel the difference
And if i can get these effects at a low dose why not

 

[malfeasance]

Is this an ethical issue for your sport?

Not judging. Just asking.

 

[bossetti]

Is this an ethical issue for your sport?

Not judging. Just asking.

 

[maxtor]

Because i dont really need to be huge,just need to recover, and feel good,the recover part i didnt thought was missing but i feel the difference
And if i can get these effects at a low dose why not

Obviously the lowest effective dose is preferred.
For cycling I dose daily 6mg TNE, 10mg Test U, 27mg Test P, 27mg EQ, all of them combined in a single homebrew, convenient to draw. Dosing upon waking ED.

Started on test P. Added TNE for the PWO boost, test U for background stable level if I am suddenly unable to inject daily and the EQ for raising HCT and keeping E2 in check.
Considering if a lower daily dose would be beneficial since mine is much higher than yours.
What is your opinion?
Have not tried EPO, but maybe in the future.

 

[Beetheone]

Because i dont really need to be huge,just need to recover, and feel good,the recover part i didnt thought was missing but i feel the difference
And if i can get these effects at a low dose why not

How long do you intend to be at 10mg ? I feel like that's just going to be enough, to shut your own production down and the net free test in your system will be less overall.

 

[bossetti]

How long do you intend to be at 10mg ? I feel like that's just going to be enough, to shut your own production down and the net free test in your system will be less overall.

Idk, if i feel good i keep it like that
It change a lot between everyone but i should be in the 700 ng/dl range

 

[Beetheone]

Idk, if i feel good i keep it like that
It change a lot between everyone but i should be in the 700 ng/dl range

But no blood work done before hand right ?

 

[IndividualMan]

Are you still in a position where you get tested regularly @bossetti ?
if yes, synthesizing starting from cholesterol, pinning in MIG812 is the way to go, assuming they are doing rigorous testing,

if they are just doing basic testing, TNE synthesized starting from plant sterols (the stuff we get from china) is good enough. If they are doing very inconsitent testing, 1x daily with Castor oil, and lowest BB/ BA necessary should be plenty.

 

[malfeasance]

i should be in the 700 ng/dl range

How do you know you were not already there?