Best UGL brand for EU domestic?

[dinfar1337]

Too much for you, it's too expensive to feed the trolls.

i heard primusanabolics pay better than driada

just fyi!

 

[nyakibacsi]

I’ve used oils from quite a few manufacturers over the years, but only testosterone. And until I had access to pharmaceutical-grade HCG and exemestane, I was using only UGL products for ancillaries as well.
If I had started with Venom’s oil from the very beginning, I honestly wouldn’t have had to deal with disappointments over the years. In my opinion, Venom is clearly TOP 1 and by far leads the EU manufacturers.
If Chilton were to return one day, I’d place them at TOP 2.
If Apex eventually moves away from EO, I think it could also become a very solid choice. And then there’s Dutch, who have improved the quality of their oils, and as far as I know, PIP has become very rare since then.

 

[QQe30]

Yeah, you're right..people always reffering to him as a source and i completely ignore he's not a brewer but a reseller.

With all that hassle and the unused vials i have to throw in the trash i'm really no interested on trying again, i hate gambling. I'm using almost exclusively driada since 2023 and had no issues, except some minor PIP when i first tried test C in a hefty dose solo in the syringe.

Other than that i've tried some bottles from pharmaqo when he was active (nice stuff) then i threw 750€ on dutch which i regret and then i bought from venom which so far has the smoothest oils i've tried.

750€ in the thrash… that hurts

Sucks that you had a bad experience. May I ask what stuff you used from Dutch and which compounds you threw away ?

I had only Drost p, test c, exemestan. No pip whatsoever. Only test p200 had little pip and I threw it away-> was only 1 vial anyways

 

[Eddie.]

750€ in the thrash… that hurts

Sucks that you had a bad experience. May I ask what stuff you used from Dutch and which compounds you threw away ?

I had only Drost p, test c, exemestan. No pip whatsoever. Only test p200 had little pip and I threw it away-> was only 1 vial anyways

Well to be fair I didn’t throw all the stuff since I’ve got some orals too AND for some of the stuff I binned I got refunded but still I decided to spend that money and stock for a while. It was during the days of shortage fear-mongering, instead of being ok for a while I had to resort for antibiotics and find another source at the last minute to stock some test.

What ended up being unusable was 6 vials test E400 and 5 vials test D400. The deca 250 was ok, the EQ400 wasn’t hurt bad but I could feel it, which is not common for EQ.

 

[trtchin]

Well to be fair I didn’t throw all the stuff since I’ve got some orals too AND for some of the stuff I binned I got refunded but still I decided to spend that money and stock for a while. It was during the days of shortage fear-mongering, instead of being ok for a while I had to resort for antibiotics and find another source at the last minute to stock some test.

What ended up being unusable was 6 vials test E400 and 5 vials test D400. The deca 250 was ok, the EQ400 wasn’t hurt bad but I could feel it, which is not common for EQ.

I have some of this E400. Was going to see if i can mix it with regular E250 or even C200.

 

[Eddie.]

I have some of this E400. Was going to see if i can mix it with regular E250 or even C200.

I’ve mixed it with EQ, deca and test e 250 and it still had more than normal pip. It went away only when I had something like 1 or 2 ml max of this in a solution of 15-18ml total. I could fight it and sustain until it ends but tbh I don’t want to put myself in that situation for so long just for inflammatory reasons. I’m pretty sure if I did a crp while running this it would be elevated.

 

[trtchin]

I’ve mixed it with EQ, deca and test e 250 and it still had more than normal pip. It went away only when I had something like 1 or 2 ml max of this in a solution of 15-18ml total. I could fight it and sustain until it ends but tbh I don’t want to put myself in that situation for so long just for inflammatory reasons. I’m pretty sure if I did a crp while running this it would be elevated.

Ok thanks. I only have 3 or 4 vials i might just toss them. Will give it a try first. Not subq tho LOL

 

[dinfar1337]

Ok thanks. I only have 3 or 4 vials i might just toss them. Will give it a try first. Not subq tho LOL

try to buy mct oil and dilute the vials down to half potency so if u have 10ml add 10ml oil and get test 200mg/ml

 

[Eddie.]

Ok thanks. I only have 3 or 4 vials i might just toss them. Will give it a try first. Not subq tho LOL

Well, give it a try. I was that stupid the first time I pinned it, I had completely neglected the fact I changed brands and don’t know how I will respond and I’ve shoot the E400 in my left pec! Within hours I started getting uncomfortable, in the night it was red, hot and started to get big. I’ve shit my pants, thankfully it didn’t make an abscess.

I’ve tried it subc as well because everything else I’ve tried subc, even primo and tren I never had pip. With that thing i have