Best UGL brand for EU domestic?

I’ve used oils from quite a few manufacturers over the years, but only testosterone. And until I had access to pharmaceutical-grade HCG and exemestane, I was using only UGL products for ancillaries as well.
If I had started with Venom’s oil from the very beginning, I honestly wouldn’t have had to deal with disappointments over the years. In my opinion, Venom is clearly TOP 1 and by far leads the EU manufacturers.
If Chilton were to return one day, I’d place them at TOP 2.
If Apex eventually moves away from EO, I think it could also become a very solid choice. And then there’s Dutch, who have improved the quality of their oils, and as far as I know, PIP has become very rare since then.
 
Yeah, you're right..people always reffering to him as a source and i completely ignore he's not a brewer but a reseller.

With all that hassle and the unused vials i have to throw in the trash i'm really no interested on trying again, i hate gambling. I'm using almost exclusively driada since 2023 and had no issues, except some minor PIP when i first tried test C in a hefty dose solo in the syringe.

Other than that i've tried some bottles from pharmaqo when he was active (nice stuff) then i threw 750€ on dutch which i regret and then i bought from venom which so far has the smoothest oils i've tried.
750€ in the thrash… that hurts

Sucks that you had a bad experience. May I ask what stuff you used from Dutch and which compounds you threw away ?

I had only Drost p, test c, exemestan. No pip whatsoever. Only test p200 had little pip and I threw it away-> was only 1 vial anyways
 
750€ in the thrash… that hurts

Sucks that you had a bad experience. May I ask what stuff you used from Dutch and which compounds you threw away ?

I had only Drost p, test c, exemestan. No pip whatsoever. Only test p200 had little pip and I threw it away-> was only 1 vial anyways


Well to be fair I didn’t throw all the stuff since I’ve got some orals too AND for some of the stuff I binned I got refunded but still I decided to spend that money and stock for a while. It was during the days of shortage fear-mongering, instead of being ok for a while I had to resort for antibiotics and find another source at the last minute to stock some test.

What ended up being unusable was 6 vials test E400 and 5 vials test D400. The deca 250 was ok, the EQ400 wasn’t hurt bad but I could feel it, which is not common for EQ.
 
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