how longs guys

[andysutils]

how long guys

Ok guys,many in the health section you know my situation and i cant thank HAN1973 enough, ive been very ill lately struck down with a disease which has left me at a 142lbs which sux, as if a fookin hernia wasnt bad enough already.

Hopefully I should be back on my feet in september ready for training again and I wanna be bulking up again.
I want to get to a reasonable weight by next march.

You know I know how to eat when it comes to dieting and know I make a dedicated job of eating 7 days a week when it comes to a bulk.

Realisticly, how much do you think i could get to by next march as in lbs?

 

[andysutils]

i cant believe noone replied, im very dissapointed in you mahogony.

 

[great one]

Re: how long guys

Ok guys,many in the health section you know my situation and i cant thank HAN1973 enough, ive been very ill lately struck down with a disease which has left me at a 142lbs which sux, as if a fookin hernia wasnt bad enough already.

Hopefully I should be back on my feet in september ready for training again and I wanna be bulking up again.
I want to get to a reasonable weight by next march.

You know I know how to eat when it comes to dieting and know I make a dedicated job of eating 7 days a week when it comes to a bulk.

Realisticly, how much do you think i could get to by next march as in lbs?

man that's a tough question , i think if you were to say i want to weigh (whatever your goal weight is) by next march, the guys on here could certainly help you to tweak your program, to get you to your goal.what has been your favorite weight, and when was it?

 

[andysutils]

Re: how long guys

man that's a tough question , i think if you were to say i want to weigh (whatever your goal weight is) by next march, the guys on here could certainly help you to tweak your program, to get you to your goal.what has been your favorite weight, and when was it?

gotta good point there bro.

the weight i was at the very start of this year was a 170lbs, now im only a 150lbs due to health reasons so ive lost 20 lbs probably more.

I am due to start training again this august but gonna try and get back into as early as this month or the next.

Ideally, i want to be at least a 180lbs before i jump on the gear or around 180 again by next march.

My ultimate goal would be at least 180 by the beginning or early next year, now i know thats probably a lot to ask for, but ive been there before and with my new diet plan of nearly 500carbs, 300+protein 100-120g fats and 4000+cals, i think this could get me back there sooner rather than later.

 

[great one]

if you were 170 before, i don't see any problem getting back there once your healthy ,and on track,would you mind posting your typical daily diet and any supplements(over or under the counter) you are taking or planning on taking.

 

[andysutils]

Breakfast
3 scrambled eggs
1 banana
2 tspoons natty peanut butter
1 scoop whey protein
50g raw oats



Mid monring
150g tuna steaks
1 tspoon natty peanut butter
1 apple
3 scrambled eggs




Lunch
150g chicken breast
300g sweet potato
1 tspoon olive oil
1 large glass fresh squeezed orange juice




Pre workout
50g oats
1 serving celltech creatine
1 banana




Post workout
50g oats
1 scoop whey protein




Dinner
6 Oz steak with potato/mixed veggies



evening
1 apple
1 scoop whey protein
100g oats




Before bed
2 tspoons natty peanut butter
50g oats
1 scoop whey protein

other supplemtns include what i take are

codliver oil
multibionta multi vitamin
1000mg Vit c
14mg Iron
Pappaya Enzymes

one or 2 things vary from time to time but it never stears far away from that.

 

[great one]

hey bro i like the diet it looks good , i think you will get back in no time , the only supplement i would add is BCAA s , i take them throughout the day to support muscle mass , and they really work great for me. other than that your going to fly back to your weight.

 

[agpando]

Andy I'm sure you already know my take on diet. You go out and you eat whatever you want and however much of it you want to eat. As long as you're keeping to exercising and maybe a slight bit of cardio you'll see sizable gains man.

 

[jasthace]

Speaking of supplements, I was reading an old Muscles mag {1999} at the gym the other day.
Was reading a nutrition article written by Lee Haney,he advocated two x multivitamin/mineral packs a day. Plus 500-1000mg of Vit C and a B complex with each meal.{good for BB........}
One thing I have read about too much B6 though,is it can deplete Magnesium which is not good for the heart among other probs.

 

[lastchance]

Hey bro, I am sorry to hear that your not doing well. That really sucks. As far as getting back up to 170-180, I see know prob. at all. Our bodies are designed to be at an ideal weight......If that was your healthy weight, then you will get right back there in know time, for sure.........take care and God Bless! Last thing..diet looks good..........I might add cottage cheese with a couple meals, great for growing!

 

[andysutils]

Andy I'm sure you already know my take on diet. You go out and you eat whatever you want and however much of it you want to eat. As long as you're keeping to exercising and maybe a slight bit of cardio you'll see sizable gains man.

ill definetely include cardio this time round, maybe just 30min a week or something.

big thanks bro for posting that training routine, you made me see something ive been totally missing, diets just an example, long as i make up the required amounts ill just be eating whatever, worked before a treat. Long as im eating every 2-3 hours i dont really mind what it is.

thanks for the feedback guys, ill let you know how it goes.

 

[Reinheart]

Eveything looks good besides the post-workout meal. Take off the oats and add a powerade. What you need post-workout is high glycemic carbohydrates to replenish glycogen levels as quiclky as possible. Also i wouldn't bothr with muscletech products. They're a waste of money. If you want a creatine with balls, try Phosphagen HP by EAS or Kre-Alkalyn from EFX. Cellmas from BSN is good option as well.

Nutrition wise, also add more healthy fats and try to get most of your carbs out of fruits and vegetables and less from pasta and rice and so on. Secondly, 5 grams of creatine among with a good dose of bcaa's and carnitine/taurine or both 20'-30' before your workout will make you a beast. You can also try adding zma, beta methoxy by ultimate nutrition and hmb, at least 1,5 - 3 grams ed. Check out Muscle armor by EAS as well. It's rather expensive but it's worth every single cent.

 

[hatman]

Isn't a casein protein such as cottage cheese better toward the end of the day rather than whey?

 

[Reinheart]

Isn't a casein protein such as cottage cheese better toward the end of the day rather than whey?

Yeah, preferably before bed time.

 

[andysutils]

Isn't a casein protein such as cottage cheese better toward the end of the day rather than whey?

yes, i believe it has a very slow digestive rate which is why many consume it before bed time, i will take this up on my return to the battle field.

Rein, do you mean powerade the off the shelf drink or the powder?

i tried that kre-alkyline before,mine was called "Purple-K" i dont know if those caps are the same but they look identical.

Are the bcaa and hmb ok to take in capsule form? are they as effective as the powder forms?

 

[Reinheart]

yes, i believe it has a very slow digestive rate which is why many consume it before bed time, i will take this up on my return to the battle field.

Rein, do you mean powerade the off the shelf drink or the powder?

i tried that kre-alkyline before,mine was called "Purple-K" i dont know if those caps are the same but they look identical.

Are the bcaa and hmb ok to take in capsule form? are they as effective as the powder forms?

Hey Andy,
I mean the one off the shelf. Products are a lot different in Europe than the states so i don't really know how this applies for you guys. What kind of results did you get with Kre-Alkalyn?

I have taken bcaa's both in liquid and capsule form and all i can say is that they are absorbed a lot faster in liquid form rather than capsule form. Regarding hmb, i've only taken it in capsule form.

 

[andysutils]

Hey Andy,
I mean the one off the shelf. Products are a lot different in Europe than the states so i don't really know how this applies for you guys. What kind of results did you get with Kre-Alkalyn?

I have taken bcaa's both in liquid and capsule form and all i can say is that they are absorbed a lot faster in liquid form rather than capsule form. Regarding hmb, i've only taken it in capsule form.

its hard to tell bro what results i got from the purple-k, i actually got it shippied from canada which i believe is where production of them first started.

My strength increased by a fair amount i can say that but as for size i dont know how much they owuld have contributed to that.

 

[andysutils]

Eveything looks good besides the post-workout meal. Take off the oats and add a powerade

thanks bro, could i use dextrose instead of the powerade?

 

[bluray]

Best of luck to you Andy I know how it feels to be forced to lose your hard earned muscle. I'm around 155-160 down from 195.

Do any of you guys buy into the idea or have seen first hand that once you reach a certain level your body will get back to that level much easier the 2nd time around?

 

[andysutils]

Do any of you guys buy into the idea or have seen first hand that once you reach a certain level your body will get back to that level much easier the 2nd time around?

yes bro i do 100%, ive been there and done it, they call this "muscle memory"

I never believed it at first and thought it was bullshit but I was out a few years ago aswell to personal issues for about 7 months and lost most if not all of my gains back then.

After going back no word of a lie i blew up again to where i was in id say no more than 2-3 months of working out again, thats the only logical explanation i have for my mega fast gains i made again.